[on racism of his early days looking for work] I had interviewed to be an AD [asst. director] at an NBC affiliate, because some production friends told me they wanted to hire a black for the control room. But they never called me back. Months later I wrote to my friend asking who got the job and he said, "Charlie, they didn't hire anyone. They never intended to. They just wanted to be able tell people they were looking for a Negro".