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8/10
Pre-code Stanwyck ROCKS
blanche-27 May 2006
"Baby Face" is a precode melodrama starring a very young Barbara Stanwyck, an almost unrecognizable George Brent, and Theresa Harris. It's about a girl who goes to the city to make good...or should I say make time. Stanwyck's father has been pimping her for one reason or another her whole life in dingy, depressed, filthy Erie, Pennsylvania. After her father dies, one older father type who knows what she's been through and truly cares about her future advises her to go to the big city and take advantage of opportunities there - and not the easy ones - and to take the high road in life. (Note that I saw the censored version and not the uncut - this part of the film was redone for the censors.) She and Chico (Harris) go to New York where Lily (nickname: Baby Face) decides the low road's a lot smoother and will get her where she wants to go a lot faster. In the movie's most famous scene, the camera moves us up the corporate ladder by taking us from floor to floor as Lily sleeps her way to the top. She finally corrals the big man himself and is able to quit her day job. Trouble follows, and she's soon involved in a huge scandal.

Stanwyck wears lots of makeup and for most of the film is cool as a cucumber as she seduces one man after another with no regrets, and she's great at playing the innocent victim. In one scene, she sits staring at a king's ransom in jewels while wearing a black dress that looks like it's decorated with diamonds at the top. Then she asks Chico for another case, and that's filled with more jewelry, plus securities. All in a day's work.

Theresa Harris was an interesting talent - she could be played down or glamorous, and was a talented singer and dancer as well. Here, she sings or hums the movie's theme, "St. Louis Woman" throughout. She worked in literally dozens of movies and is very good here as a friend of Stanwyck's, her best work being in the precode era. As a bizarre byproduct of the code, blacks were often given less to do in films after it was put in place.

Precode films could be more sexually blatant and therefore, though they're 70+ years old, seem more modern. Even though these films didn't have to have moral endings, Baby Face learns her lessons - how like life it is after all. There were several endings of this film, all with the same message. The one I saw had an added scene, but apparently, there were two other endings that didn't pass the censors. (There wasn't a code but there were always censors.) At any rate, it's a neat surprise. "Baby Face" is an important film in movie history - a must see.
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8/10
Fuzzy Wuzzy
krorie5 December 2006
Finally, the uncut version of "Baby Face" surfaces and from what source? The Library of Congress. The restored four minutes, snippets here and there, make for a much better film. We now know that Baby Face was pimped by her old man from the time she was at least fourteen years of age. Another reason d'tat for her behavior and cold, calculating exterior.

Barbara Stanwyck is indeed amazing in the role of Lily Powers (notice the moniker), a part that called for just the right amount of sexuality coated with power, cunning, and revenge, yet tinged with virginal pretense when called for, a very difficult portrayal to make convincing. Barbara Stanwyck conveys the necessary nuances to show that though she sleeps her way to the top (literally), she still has good in her heart--note the way she treats those few who have been kind to her such as Chico (the marvelous actress Theresa Harris) and the old philosopher. And though she exploits her sexuality to make mush of men who are rich and powerful, those same men are attempting to exploit her for their carnal desires with no intention of permanent ties until they fall in love with her.

Lily Powers fails to understand, at first, that emotions are difficult to ride, that it's easy to lose control. One possible result is death. Hitching a wagon to a star of course materialism can take one to a destination where nothing else exists but the ephemeral, and it's a cold lonely location.

A word should be said about the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche whose will to power is stressed in "Baby Face" by the elderly philosopher who befriends Lilly when she is still turning tricks for her old man. "Baby Face" was released the same year Adolf Hitler came to power in Germany. Though it's highly unlikely that the semi-literate Hitler understood much about Nietzsche, he considered himself a Nietzschean to the nth degree and touted it along side his other rantings. "Baby Face" serves as an indictment of the popular interpretation of Nietzsche's will to power concept, especially in the final scenes.

Although "You've got the cutest little baby face." is apropos as a theme for "Baby Face," an even more telling and applicable melody is W. C. Handy's "St. Louis Blues" played throughout the film, especially at times when the camera has to drift away from what would otherwise be sexually explicit scenes. "St. Louis Blues" is also used wisely toward the end as Lily begins to see beyond materialism to eternal values. Chico is singing a raw, salacious version of "St. Louis Blues" when Lily, now disagreeing with the lyrics, orders her to stop.

The restored version of "Baby Face" makes the film more modern in its approach and attitude toward sex as power than many a new Hollywood release. By all means watch this gem from the distant past and enjoy.
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7/10
Early Stanwyck role is one to relish
moonspinner5518 July 2007
Barbara Stanwyck as a real tough cookie, a waitress to the working classes (and prostitute at the hands of her father) who escapes to New York City and uses her feminine wiles to get a filing job, moving on to Mortgage and Escrow, and later as assistant secretary to the second in command at the bank. Dramatic study of a female character unafraid to be unseemly has lost none of its power over the years, with Barbara acting up a storm (portraying a woman who learns to be a first-rate actress herself). Parlaying a little Nietzschean philosophy into her messed up life, this lady crushes out sentiment all right, but she never loses our fascination, our awe. She's a plain-spoken, hard-boiled broad, but she's not a bitch, nor is she a man-eater or woman-hater. This gal is all out for herself, and as we wait for her to eventually learn about real values in life, her journey up and down the ladder of success provides heated, sexy entertainment. John Wayne (with thick black hair and too much eye make-up) does well in an early role as the assistant in the file office, though all the supporting players are quite good. *** from ****
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10/10
Stanwyck Sizzles
Ron Oliver2 April 2002
Arriving by boxcar in New York City, the shrewd young woman with the BABY FACE begins to methodically canoodle her way to the top floors of power in a great bank.

Barbara Stanwyck is fascinating as the amoral heroine of this influential pre-Code drama. Without a shred of decency or regret, she coolly manipulates the removal or destruction of the men unlucky enough to find themselves in her way. A wonderful actress, Stanwyck has full opportunity here to display her ample talents.

Appearing quite late in the story, George Brent is a welcome addition as the one fellow possibly able to handle Stanwyck; his sophisticated style of acting makes a nice counterpoint to her icy demeanor. Douglas Dumbrille, Donald Cook & Henry Kolker portray a succession of her unfortunate victims.

John Wayne appears for just a few scant seconds as an unsuccessful suitor for Stanwyck's affections. This would be the only time these two performers appeared together on screen.

Movie mavens should recognize Nat Pendleton as a speakeasy customer, and Charles Sellon & Edward Van Sloan as bank executives - all unbilled.

The music heard on the soundtrack throughout the film, perfectly punctuating the plot, is ‘Baby Face' (1926) by Benny Davis & Harry Akst and ‘St. Louis Blues' (1914) by W.C. Handy.

BABY FACE is a prime example of pre-Code naughtiness. In its frank & unapologetic dealing with sex, it is precisely the kind of film which the implementation of the Production Code in 1934 was meant to eliminate.
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9/10
The very EPITOME of pre-Code movies
binapiraeus17 April 2014
There have been written so many things about "Baby Face", being the probably MOST daring and explicitly sexual movie before the enforcement of the Hays Code - in fact, one of the main REASONS for its rigorous enforcement - that every fan of classic films, even if he hasn't actually seen it, knows pretty well what it's all about. A girl who's been 'working' in her father's dubious 'establishment', 'entertaining' men ever since she was 14, and after her father's death escaping to New York and REALLY climbing up the ladder; 'wrong by wrong', as the ads for the movie promised the scandal-hungry audience of the time...

Although this movie should be regarded exclusively in itself, there is ONE comparison that inevitably comes to mind - to the OTHER great pre-Code movie that had been released just two months before "Baby Face", and constituted the other half of the gravestone that Will Hays would soon put on this kind of 'unacceptably immoral' movies: Mae West's "I'm No Angel"... In fact, the philosophy of the two starring ladies is just about the same; only that Mae expressed it in her own, casual way of 'Find 'em, fool 'em, and forget 'em', while Barbara goes by the philosophical advice of none other than Nietzsche: 'Face life as you find it - defiantly and unafraid. Waste no energy yearning for the moon. Crush out all sentiment.' And so she does - she uses her female assets to make a VERY quick career at a big bank, making it to the 'executive suite' in literally no time; she uses the way that Mae West had suggested in words and humorous double-entendres, but VERY explicitly and unequivocally for the whole audience. And she gives a MAGNIFICENT performance (maybe the best one of her whole, great career) as the tough gal determined to do EVERYTHING in order to reach the 'top' - and yet, just when she thinks she's got everything she wanted (everything measurable in dollars, jewels and fur coats, that is), her sentiment, that she'd been trying so hard to crush, sets in, and her 'success story' becomes a drama...

And that's exactly the difference between "Baby Face" and "I'm No Angel": Mae West, as always, takes even her most spicy adventures with humor, always staying on top of things and getting what she wants; while Barbara Stanwyck is forced by the circumstances almost from the beginning of her life to become a 'bad girl' - and that was obviously a TOO much realistic view of things for the Hays Office: while "I'm No Angel" finally got its seal, "Baby Face" was withdrawn from release and edited until it was 'fit' for distribution. But it was still HIGHLY explosive stuff, and soon afterwards the final curtain came down on those daring, 'outrageous' pre-Code movies in the shape of Will Hays' 'Bible' called the Production Code, which would from now on be rigorously applied to EVERY movie before it would be granted a seal.

So enjoy "Baby Face" as one of the most audacious pre-Code films - and as one of the VERY best movies of classic Hollywood in general, featuring one of the GREATEST performances of one of the GREATEST actresses of all times!
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7/10
Beautiful Schemer: The Strange Loves of Lily Powers
lugonian3 December 2004
BABY FACE (Warner Brothers, 1933), directed by Alfred E. Green, stars the young and forceful Barbara Stanwyck in a "pre-code" drama that has gathered a "bad" reputation in its initial release, only to become a cult favorite decades later, thanks to frequent revivals on the Turner Classic Movies cable channel. A hot item it its day, the initial 45 minutes of BABY FACE is hard-hitting and fast-pace, with intentional or unintentional funny lines combined. Only after the arrival of co-star George Brent does the story begin to lose steam. Only when it begins to recover some strength during its concluding minutes, the film fails to recapture whatever essence it had during the initial three quarters of an hour.

The focal point is on Lily Powers (Barbara Stanwyck), the sassy daughter of Nick (Robert Barrat), an abusive father of the slums of Pittsburgh who has her working as a barmaid in his speakeasy entertaining low-life factory working friends. After Nick is killed in an explosion, by which Lily watches, showing no remorse or emotion whatsoever, decides on leaving her hometown, accompanied by her friend, Chico (Theresa Haris) on a freight train for New York City. Upon her arrival, Lily uses whatever life has taught her to get ahead, rising up the corporate latter of a banking firm, by showing her feminine wiles to full advantage. Becoming responsible for the breakup between banker, Ned Stevens (Donald Cook) and his fiancée, Ann Carter (Margaret Lindsay), followed by a murder/suicide, the notorious scandal finds Lily about to transferred to the Paris branch until she captures the attention of Trenholm (George Brent), the new president of the Botham Trust Company, as her latest victim.

Featured in the supporting cast are Douglass Dumbrille (Brody, another one of Lily's "love slaves"); Nat Pendleton (Stolvich, a sleazy factory worker); Maynard Holmes (a personnel office clerk); with Alphonse Ethier, Henry Kolker and Charles Coleman in smaller roles. Along with Dumbrille, Cook and Kolker as men who fall prey to a gal called Lily, the biggest surprise is finding the youthful John Wayne, years prior to his major star status, as one of Lily's rejected suitors. Wayne's role as an office clerk is brief but noteworthy as being the one and only collaboration of the "Duke" and "Stanny." James Murray, the leading actor in MGM's silent masterpiece, THE CROWD (1928), in a career setback by this time, appeared briefly as a railroad brakeman. His scene, however, was taken out prior to its release. A director's complete cut that included Murray and other edited scenes were later discovered and presented on TCM for the first time December 4, 2006.

A dress rehearsal for some of her latter tough-as-nails dramas as DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944) and THE STRANGE LOVES OF MARTHA IVERS (Paramount, 1946), for example, Stanwyck plays Lily Powers to the hilt, a strong-willed woman with a lot of hate, especially towards men. When pitting them to their own destruction, her eyes stay motionless, detailing reactions through silence rather than with words. Regardless of movie title and popular song by Benny Davis and Harry Akst (scored during the opening credits) that could have served as a Broadway musical about a cute chorus girl, Stanwyck, hardly a "baby face" by any means, is referred to as such once by Jimmy McCoy (John Wayne) and office secretaries (one played by Toby Wing), but never referred to that name again. Aside from other songs, "I Kiss Your Hand, Madame" is underscored several times during the latter portion of the story.

A forerunner to the "trash" movies of the 1960s and 70s, what makes BABY FACE so watchable is the explicit way it uses sex and immorality out of camera range, leaving questionable situations to the imagination of the viewer. A prime example is witnessing Lily's job promotion up the corporate latter with the camera panning from the outside office window from personnel, filing, mortgage and accounting departments to the underscoring of burlesque-type music.

Could anyone else but Barbara Stanwyck handle such an assignment as depicted in BABY FACE? Joan Blondell, another resident Warner Brothers stock player, perhaps, considering how Stanwyck's blonde hairstyle bears a strong resemblance to Blondell's, especially during the more glamorized moments in the film's second half. Blondell, might have handled her task well, but the major difference is that Blondell, as good as she is, or was, wouldn't have handled the forcefulness the way Stanwyck had. Stanwyck, a brunette, was at her best playing nasty blondes, especially here and a decade later in DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944).

Aside from BABY FACE as one of the favorites shown on TCM, it did have some exposure during the early 1990s on Turner Network Television (TNT) and distribution to home video as part of Leonard Maltin's "Forbidden Hollywood" series, and finally on DVD. For a worthwhile introductory to "pre-code" movies, either the complete or theatrical edited release of BABY FACE, along with Stanwyck's earlier NIGHT NURSE (1931), should be tops in the assembly line. (**1/2)
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8/10
BABY FACE (Alfred E. Green, 1933) Pre-Release Version: ***1/2; Theatrical Version: ***
Bunuel197612 June 2007
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This one is considered a key Pre-Code film – from the director who later made the musical biopic THE JOLSON STORY (1946), but also the paranoid sci-fi INVASION U.S.A. (1952)! – and features one of Barbara Stanwyck's best early roles.

She's supported by a fine cast which includes popular actors and valued character performers of the day – George Brent, Douglass Dumbrille, Edward van Sloan, Nat Pendleton and John Wayne (at one point addressing Stanwyck with the titular nickname, derived from a popular song which is heard constantly throughout) in the former category and, in the latter, Robert Barrat (as Stanwyck's father), Donald Cook (as her most tragic conquest), Alphonse Ethier (as her elderly mentor – more on this later), Arthur Hohl (as a lecherous politician) and Henry Kolker (as Cook's boss and father-in-law, whom Stanwyck also seduces). Curiously, scenes in which Walter Brennan appeared were subsequently deleted at his own request when the film ran into trouble with the censors!

Abetted by crackling i.e. typically hard-boiled dialogue and realistic Anton Grot sets, the narrative contains unexpected overtones of Nietzschean philosophy fed to our small-town heroine by the intellectual Ethier (Stanwyck complains to him early on that she's no "ball of fire" which, of course, contradicts her later comedy – directed by Howard Hawks and co-starring Gary Cooper – of that name!). Under Ethier's auspices, she quickly blooms into an essentially heartless character determined that nothing shall stand in her path to success; the symbolic depiction of her rise in stature at the New York firm she's eventually employed with is reminiscent of a similarly sardonic one – relating to an ambitious statesman's lust for power – in Sergei Eisenstein's October (1927)! Sociologically, it's also interesting that Stanwyck is constantly seen sticking her neck out for her black maid/companion.

The first two-thirds of the film are simply terrific; at first, I found the latter stages somewhat disappointing – because I was expecting to see Stanwyck get her comeuppance by falling for the belatedly-introduced George Brent character while he ignores her…but, just like the others, he's soon under her spell! On second viewing, however, this aspect felt less jarring – as it's evident that Stanwyck has been affected by the two deaths her selfish behavior has caused, and that her tenure in Paris has softened her (even if she tries to cling to her hard-earned wealth for as long as it's possible).

Released on DVD by Warners as part of their FORBIDDEN Hollywood VOLUME 1 COLLECTION, the film is presented in two strikingly different edits – a recently unearthed Pre-Release version and the tamer Theatrical Release print. Among the considerable footage cut from the latter is dialogue pertaining to Stanwyck's life as a tramp from the age of 14 (though it's heard in the accompanying trailer!), while many other scenes have been shortened (i.e. censored for content): the violent fisticuff which develops between Stanwyck and Hohl after she resists his advances; the seduction at the railroad car; the scene in which Dumbrille is surprised with Stanwyck by Cook; the shooting, followed by a suicide (only shots are heard in the shorter version); Stanwyck thinking about her conquests while the phonograph is playing (again, only Brent appears in the version released to theaters), etc. Tha latter, then, utilizes alternate takes for some scenes – and includes an establishing shot of the city which is missing from the longer version; however, we also get an obviously tacked-on happy ending (the Pre-Release version concludes abruptly on a very effective open-ended note) and an equally unconvincing cautionary letter sent by Ethier to Stanwyck in New York which, basically, has the function of substituting all references to Nietzsche!
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7/10
Possible uncensored-version on DVD in 2006
notmicro26 April 2005
An original uncensored print of this amazing film was discovered in 2004 in the Library of Congress, and has been shown in a few specialized theaters around the world in 2005. According to current reviews that I've found online, the original has all of the nastiest dialog and innuendos intact; they were later either removed or completely re-shot by the studio prior to initial release, in order to pass the New York state censors. I have also read that a DVD is "expected in 2006" and one can only hope! If we're really luckily, it will include comparisons between the 2 versions. Note that the released censored version was originally available on Laserdisc, which I have seen. Stanwyck rules!
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9/10
This Film Has Been Restored by Library of Congress
normanbott11 July 2005
The National Gallery of Art showed the long-thought lost original uncut version of this film on July 10, 2005. It restores vital scenes cut by censors upon its release. The character of the cobbler, a moral goody-goody individual in the original censored release of 1933 is here presented as a follower of the philosopher Nietsze and urges her to use men to claw her way to the top. Also, the corny ending of the original which I assume is in current VHS versions is eliminated and the ending is restored to its original form. A wonderful film of seduction and power. Hopefully, there will a reissue of this film on DVD for all to appreciate its great qualities. Look for it.
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6/10
Dangerous Stanwyck Brashly Sleeps Her Way to the Top in an Early Role.
nycritic9 March 2005
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Contrary to MGM, Warner's films had little to do with the glitz and glamour of the era and a lot to do with the decay and corruption and the little people that was the norm in the early Depression years, and before the Code came and basically threw most creativity out the window, many of the females were strong, gritty, tough-as-nails vixens who exuded an earthy sexuality and lots of brains to keep themselves afloat in what was a men's world.

Barbara Stanwyck, no stranger to strong roles, was one of them, and here she plays an openly amoral woman, Lily Powers, who is practically being pimped by her own father in a sleazy speakeasy. Once it burns to the ground, she and her maid Chico (Theresa Harria who has quite a lot of screen time at almost a co-starring level), take to New York City and it's not long before Stanwyck is essentially climbing the ladder man by man when she gets a job in a bank, among them a young John Wayne in a brief appearance, casually breaking their hearts until she basically has reached the top but eventually pays for it when a crime of passion takes place in her posh flat and she has to flee to Paris. A tacked-on romance between Stanwyck and George Brent and a moment when she (sort of) comes to terms with her dog-eat-dog attitude, mainly caused by the dawn of the Code era and censors who were outraged brings this film to a happy conclusion as she goes back to her home town.
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10/10
Compare the Pre-Release and Theatrical Release side by side!
kikiteka11 August 2010
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On the Forbidden Hollywood DVD, both versions of the film are delightfully on the same disc, making it easy to compare them. I watched the uncensored, uncut pre-release version first, then the theatrical release to see what they had cut. Holy cow! A lot! To my surprise they not only cut, they revised. The revisions really change the tone and character motivations. If you've only ever seen the theatrical release then you must see the uncensored version, if only to find out three things 1. That the kindly old man who gives her earnest advice...is not the guy you thought he was. Almost all of his dialogue was cut or redubbed to make him a "moral voice of reason" in the theatrical release. The scene where he sends her a chastising letter was a revision. Get a load of what he actually tells her, and what he actually sends her! Let me put it this way, he's a much bigger influence on her behavior than the theatrical release led one to believe. 2. The boxcar scene. Which was cut in it's entirety from the theatrical release. It raised my 2010 eyebrows! Finally, 3. The ending when she's listening to her phonograph in the stateroom. Here I'll be specific because this was a change that irritated me. In the theatrical release, she's listening to the record and we see that she's thinking about her husband, and then she dashes off to find him. In the pre-release version she's listening to the record and she's thinking about ALL of the men who she's been involved with over the course of the movie that got her to where she is, finally ending with her husband and a voice-over of him telling her that he knows she's been with a lot of men, but he doesn't care, he loves her and is determined to make her love him. Then she dashes off to find him. Honestly that makes a big difference! You know she goes back to him because he's the one guy who accepts her for who she is. In the theatrical version she's just suddenly developed random affection for him, no reason. So if you can, watch the uncensored, uncut version. It's absolutely worth your time!
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Ahead of its time Barbara Stanwyck movie is pretty good!
jackbaird2 August 2004
This is a very good movie. Unusual for its day, due to the overt sex and plot. It also has a black playing a major role that is not a typical maid or servant, but more of a wise cracking best friend. Barbara Stanwyck, who I never considered very attractive, is quite stunning in a trampish sort of way. You will recognize a very young John Wayne as one of her boy friends, as well as many other character actors and actresses of the day. The woman playing the black girl, is new to me, she has a nice voice, as she sings a few jazz tunes of the era, I wonder what happened to her. This movie was before the Hays Code of Decency and it shows. I highly recommended this movie.
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7/10
wowza! pre-code delight
windypoplar17 July 2007
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I hand't seen the restored, or any version for that matter, of "Baby Face" with Barbara Stanwyck till I caught it on TCM. What a great movie! In a nutshell Lily lives in a speakeasy, she's been pimped out by her own Father since she was 14! Then his still blows up and he's killed leaving Lily (Stanwyck) alone cept for her black maid Chico, played very nicely by Theresa Harris. Lily leaves for the big city ( New York) deciding to use her sex to get to the top. She does this in great style!

She seduces a pudgy clerk to get in on the ground floor and proceeds to go through men like disposable candy! One dumps his fiancée and kills his near father-in-law, also Lily's sugar-daddy, then commits suicide! Lily barely blinks! STanwyck is terrific as a girl who really doesn't know what love is.

Then in Paris, she falls for Courtland, played by George Brent, they marry, but when he's in deep financial straights, she bolts. Nearly free with Chico and a half-million, she realizes she loved Court! Lily races to find him, but will she be too late?

This is pre-code Hollywood at its best. Stanwyck is tremendous and the look and music in the film are perfect. This reminded me of "Original Sin" with Angelina Jolie, another unfairly ignored flick with an amoral woman, those who disliked that films ultra-romantic leanings, will not like Baby FAce any better, those with belief in sex, love and power, will love it. Highly recommended! See it!
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5/10
Pre-Code Stanwyck Sleeps Her Way to the Top
evanston_dad3 January 2007
This notoriously racy pre-Code film stars a gorgeous and sexy Barbara Stanwyck as a young girl from the wrong side of the tracks who moves to the big city and uses her "feminine ways" to keep herself in furs and jewels. Within the film's first fifteen minutes, Stanwyck's father has tried to pimp her to a frequenter of his speak easy, and a shoe cobbler and friend of the family (and closest thing to a father figure she has) has delivered a speech about how she should use men to get what she wants. Taking his advice, she hops the rails with her black maid, and gets to try out her newly found technique for the first time on a railway worker who threatens to turn them over to the police. Aside from the film's general frankness about sex as a means to an end, this is perhaps the most shocking single scene in the film. Stanwyck, in extreme close up and for the first in what ends up being about 30 times over the course of the film, says "Why don't we talk this over?", the railway worker, looking grizzled and horny, looks her up and down and moves closer, the black maid smirks and takes herself off into the corner, and a pair of gloves dropped to the floor clearly indicates what's going on just outside the frame. If you're looking for jaw-dropping content on a par with other notorious pre-Code films like, say, "The Sign of the Cross" (I haven't yet seen anything quite like that movie in all my years of watching films) you may be disappointed, as this is about as racy as "Baby Face" gets. But even so, it's obvious why the enforcers of the Code freaked out and demanded that much of this film be recut.

The rest of the movie sees Stanwyck quickly making her way through the various bigwigs in a hot-shot company, and soon men are shooting themselves over her. It's all pretty silly, and if it were not for its racy reputation, it would be a pretty forgettable film, but it does offer a sleazy kind of fun.

By the way, I love this film's tagline: "She made her way up the corporate ladder, wrong by wrong!" That should give you some indication of what you're in for.

Grade: B-
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9/10
Good Lessons To be Learned
ccthemovieman-121 September 2005
No sense going over the story since enough reviewers have done that. Here's a few different slants on it from one of those "religious nuts," as one bigoted reviewer puts it so tolerantly.

1) "Baby Face" (1933) offers perhaps THE classic example ever put on film of how women can manipulate men with sex. There is a lot of truth to what Barbara Stanwyck demonstrates in this film: look cute, bat your eyelashes, offer your body for free.....and men will fall over themselves to help you out with whatever you want.

In this case, it was job advancement with the ultimate goal of money.....lots of it. At least four men in this film do provide just that, even if it ruins their lives in the process.

2) The ending - which many of the reviewers here seemed to hate - gives another great message: all the money and material goods in the world won't make a person feel fulfilled. A sad comment that so many "critics" here would rather have immoral messages, preferring sleaze over substance. No surprise, I guess.

Any way you look at it, the movie is entertaining start-to-finish and Stanwyck has some great lines, particularly in the beginning when she tells off her crude father and his unruly bar customers. At a little over 70 minutes, this film moves at a fast pace and is over before you know it.
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9/10
Babyface stuns with it's controversial premise.
Itsallgooman779 December 2016
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Babyface is an excellent film. Telling the story of a woman who uses her body to move up the ranks of a big bank. This probably was controversial at the time. It has an unflinching willingness to depict sexual situations that may have been shocking at the time. Barbara Stanwick is just ravishing throughout. They use a lot of milky light that almost gives a dream like quality to the scenes. Another interesting trick they use is the visual of the outside of the building: we see higher and higher up the outside of the building as the main character climbs the corporate ladder, so to speak. The film also has some very good twists to it that keep you on your toes. Give this film a shot, it is totally worth it.
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7/10
Let's make lots of money
Prismark1015 November 2018
There was censorship in US cinema. The Hays code which was enforced from 1934 just added another layer and stifled American cinema.

This is starkly displayed in Baby Face which was a pre code film and it is more frank in its use of sex as a means of getting what you want.

Lily Powers (Barbara Stanwyck) has been pimped out by her father since she was 14 year of age. Her father runs an illegal drinking den in Pittsburgh. Most of the patrons want to get an eyeful and feel of Lily.

When her father is killed, an elderly friend tells Lily to take a leaf out of the writings of Friedrich Nietzsche and go for greater things even if she has to use men. Lily and her afro american friend Chico (Theresa Haris) hop on a freight train for New York.

When they arrive in the big metropolis, Lily uses her feminine charms to get a job in a bank and go up the corporate ladder by sleeping her way to the top. This leads to tragedy when one of her suitors commits a murder and then kills himself.

The film with its frankness feels like a breath of fresh air. It actually looks modern. Stanwyck is alluring, there is a small early role for John Wayne, one of Lily's amorous victims. The film is unusual with Lily being close to a black character. Watching the restored version was like viewing a lost classic.
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8/10
The gold digger and Nietzsche
jotix10012 April 2010
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Lily Powers, the daughter of a speakeasy owner, grows up among an unsavory crowd. An older client, Adolf Cragg, is instrumental for changing her outlook in life when he advises her to use men for her own benefit. Cragg, an admirer of German philosopher Frederick Nietzsche, knew Lily would have no problem in a big city where wealthy men had an appetite for fresh young women willing to amuse them.

Lily and her friend Chico arrive in Manhattan penniless, after a trip on a cattle car where she first uses her female charms on the train man that allows them to travel. Lily proves to be a fast learner. When she seeks employment, she is hired to start working in a bank in a low position. She has her eyes set on the high management, something that she achieves easily. She goes from rags to riches, using her sexual appeal on the key men she targeted. Her luck runs out after the fatal killing of her sugar daddy that causes a scandal.

Since Lily is also feeding into the frenzy created by the scandal, she is asked by the bank's board, headed by Courtland Trenholm, to accept money and a transfer to the Paris branch. In Paris, Lily leads a modest life until Courtland appears on the scene in connection with the bank. Little prepare these two for the passion that consumes them after he falls for Lily.

We watched the copy of "Baby Face" that was recently found and restored. This was the Hollywood before the Hays Code, and it shows its daring in a film that doesn't leave anything to the viewer's imagination. It is raw sex, pure and unadulterated. The film was directed by Alfred E. Green, who enjoyed a long career in the industry. Mr. Green uses an imaginary building to show Lily's own climb from a lowly clerk to different areas within the bank going from low floors to the top of the edifice.

Barbara Stanwyck showed why she was one of the best actresses of all times. She made a perfect Lily, exuding sex with little effort. A young George Brent was effective as Courtland Trenholm, the man that ultimately transforms Lily into a woman that falls in love and leaves her shady past behind her. Veterans Donald Cook, Margaret Lindsay, Henry Kolker and even an unknown named John Wayne were on hand to make this a daring movie that dealt honestly with a subject that was avoided after the industry changed for the worst and decided to be hypocritical about sex in the movies for quite a long time.
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7/10
Greed is Good
dglink18 January 2009
The pre-release version of 1933's "Baby Face" would make an ideal introduction to a corporate seminar on sexual harassment. Mentored by a Nietszchean professor, Lily Powers rises from a life of easy virtue at her father's speakeasy to a rapid climb up the corporate ladder at a large bank. Because each rung of the ladder is an executive with his brain below his belt and his ethics locked in the vault, the film has no victims, except Lily's childhood, which was destroyed by an abusive exploitative father. The destructive relationship with her father suggests Lily's hidden motive for using men to advance without regard for their fate. While Lily is cynical and obvious in her approach, the men she targets willingly betray wives and fiancés to trade jobs for sexual favors. Perhaps the bank failures in the 1930's owed less to economics than to morally corrupt executives distracted by ambitious women.

The plot moves fast, and the camera amusingly moves from window to window up the façade of the office building as Lily climbs ever higher. Barbara Stanwyck reveled in tough hard-bitten roles, and she is in top form here. Sentiment does not intrude when she is ready to climb the next rung. Only her African-American confidante, Chico, receives Lily's affection, trust, and loyalty. In more enlightened times, the fresh natural beauty of Theresa Harris, who plays Chico, would have had the men throwing the furs and penthouses at her. Stanwyck often appears overly made-up and stiffly coiffed in comparison to Harris. However, despite Stanwyck's tough demeanor, obvious tactics, and artificial visage, she manages to leave a trail of duped and seduced men, including Douglass Dumbrille, Donald Cook, and a young John Wayne.

The preferred version of "Baby Face" is the 76-minute restored cut. The edited release version of the film shyly turns from the hard facts, which the longer cut restores and makes explicit. Perhaps Darryl Zanuck, who wrote the story under an assumed name, intended a lesson by quoting from Nietszche, whose views on women were controversial. However, despite Alphonse Ethier's lectures and advice not to be defeated by life, Lily's grab for power and money likely owed more to her upbringing and her father than to her professorial mentor. However, the philosophy is but a distraction. Short, fast paced, and entertaining, "Baby Face" is as contemporary in its morality as "Wall Street." Substitute Gordon Gecko for Nietszche, and Lily could have declared her guiding philosophy to be "greed is good."
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9/10
A young woman from the wrong side of the tracks plots her way out and up.
ltlacey15 June 2009
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In my opinion this has to be one of Barbara Stanwyck's best performances. She was one of only a handful of actors, then and now, who could say more with a single look than an entire page of dialogue. And I was lucky enough to see the original and uncensored movie, with the extra 4 minutes of additional footage. Too bad the movie is so short. Lily is a young woman barely holding it together working for her father in his illegal speakeasy. Her only link to anything is her good friend, Chico, played wonderfully by Theresa Harris. Though Chico is African American (and having a white woman be best friends with a black woman back in the 30s was as controversial as the subject matter of this movie), and Lily is not, they have a special bond. And it is not sexual. Just 2 women stuck, or shoved, into a situation beyond their control. After Lily's father dies, and she does not know what she will do, she is told that she has the power to get out and to get what she wants. Yes, it's immoral, but that's the entire point of this movie. Then "they" had to go and ruin the last few minutes. So, up until the last few minutes of the movie, it's a superb film and worth watching. The "lesson" of the movie is still as valid today as it was back then, and I'm sure will be a 100 years from now. Women, it's awful what Lily does in order to get what she wants, but it works. Men, take note.
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7/10
one of Stanwyck's most glamorous metamorphosis on screen
lasttimeisaw1 September 2015
A Hollywood pre-code drama stars a deadly enthralling Stanwyck as the titular Baby Face, a nickname for Lily Powers, at the age of 26, Stanwyck is strikingly as the acme of her beauty. At the start of the film, Lily lives with his father (Barrat), who opens a speakeasy during the Prohibition in a small town, and the unadorned truth is that her father has pimped her to any men who is willing to pay ever since she was 14, the pre-code straight- from-the-shoulder account does look like a slap-in-the-face to the prudishness of the Tinseltown in retrospect.

Illuminated by Cragg (Ethier), an upright old patron who is a fervent advocate of Nietzsche's philosophy, after her father's abrupt death in an accident, Lily follows the maxim "use men but not being used by them", and arrives in New York with her maid/friend Chico (Harris), exploits her gorgeous sex appeal to procure higher positions in the soaring Gotham Trust tower, there is a brilliant metaphor of her ascending juxtaposed with the literal moving-up of the floors where she works. Various men, fat or lean, young or old, uncouth or suave, ordinary do rich (a very young John Wayne is one of them) are all infatuated with her, well, this assumption might seem a bit oversimplified from men's motivations, but Stanwyck gracefully downplays the oversimplification with her felicitous flirty spirit and confidence, as if she subtly declares - it is my film and I'm the only protagonist. Accumulating wealth is Lily's sole target, yet, one of her jilted lovers, Ned (Cook), a young executive, cannot take it lightly when Lily becomes Vice President Carter's (Kolker) mistress, a loaded pistol takes two lives away, also worth mentioning is that Carter is Ned's soon-to-be father-in-law, that is how mixed-up things are, men, always men, hold things back into a mess.

Eventually, destiny gives Lily another opportunity, to meet her ultimate match Trenholm (Brent), the newly elected bank president who is set to assuage the bank's public image after the Ned-Carter scandal. The eventual seduction takes place in Paris, is Trenholm different from all the other men Lily have manoeuvred, aside from he is even richer? The final struggle for her is a simple option, to choose money or the man, as woman- empowering as this film has been until the finale, the out-of-the-blue realisation after the nondescript montages of all the men she utilise to move upward fleeting over her mind, can be a major letdown. Why Trenholm is different? Audience can hardly find any clue from the story itself. However, we shouldn't make excessive demands on an early talkie made in 1933, what we are expecting? She flees away with her wealth and leaves her man dying? That will be outstanding but too dark for even today's viewers to assimilate, thus such an ending is inevitable, the only wishful thinking is that the transition could be made with a more plausible mechanism, a 71-minutes length is too brief for so many happenings.

BABY FACE has received quite a strong revaluation a little while back simply because its flagrant sex policy leaning on women's favour (although she is defeated by love in the end) and the sensitive timing, but also if I may say, it may not be her most acclaimed role, but certainly is one of Stanwyck's most glamorous metamorphosis on screen, even for this reason only, film buffs cannot leave it unattended, a magnificent BluRay version of this Black-and-White oldie has been released.
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9/10
One Flutter of Lily's Lashes...
saramatrazzo6 October 2019
And you're in love! Or at least that is how easy she made it seem. Though sex was implicit throughout, much more impressive and subtle ploys were the tools of this hard as nails leading lady. Where some films would exploit this for smut appeal-Baby Face managed to keep you respecting, admiring, and empathizing with Stanwyck the whole way through. The lack of true love in her life, her need to survive, and the cool and rational philosophy of Nietzsche drive her man-eating upward mobility. She shares her wealth and home with the one kind person she knows, Chico, and keeps in touch with Mr. Cragg all throughout. Once she finds true love, she easily resigns her wealth in favor of it, proving once and for all her goodness. I loved her outfits, her fantastic and frank attitude, and the pace of the movie.
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7/10
As much feminism as the 1930s have to offer
aghauptman31 January 2018
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This is an entertaining, albeit repetitive, script flip on behaviors clearly acceptable among men at the time. I appreciated that Lilly Powers was going after what she wanted in the world and was willing to use men as much as the men wanted to use her. Good for her. And I appreciate the progressiveness of Stanwyck's character looking out for and not leaving behind Chico. I think it's fare to say that Chico was probably paid more than the average "help" to afford such furs as she's seen wearing. Or at least I'd like to think so! Stanwyck's plays the part wonderfully. I liked the visible attempt of fitting in in higher class jobs and society - when she corrects herself on the phone when she slips and says "ain't" and turns it into "isn't." You can tell she sort of loses sight of herself in the facades she puts on for all of these men she uses and manipulates. And predictable finds the one who truly warms her heart. This movie shows/alludes to sex very boldly as it's pre Hayes code - it feels quite brazen at times. But I suppose that's the point. At times I felt sorry for Powers because her bold plans for upward advancement definitely alienated her from her female peers who clearly had disdain for her behind her back. Overall it's a well made movie with a stunning leading woman.
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The sweetheart of the night shift
tieman644 February 2013
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"Suppose Truth is a woman. What then?" - Nietzsche

Directed by Alfred Green, "Baby Face" is one of the more notorious dramas of the Pre Code era. Filled with sexual innuendos, a fairly erotic plot, many double entendres and some risqué camera work, the film stars Barbara Stanwyck as the aptly named Lily Powers, a plucky young woman who lives with her father in a smoky industrial town.

From the onset it is established that Lily's reality is grim, grim, grim. She lives in a cramped apartment, spends most of her time in her father's dingy speakeasy, has but one friend (an African American maidservant) and is routinely prostituted by her father to local men. When her father dies, Lily thus sets about trying to change her life. She leaves her town and heads for New York City. Here she intends to get rich by marrying a wealthy banker. The film then watches as Lily flirts, sleeps with and cons a series of men, most of whom are multimillionaires or in positions of power. Her actions are guided by Friedrich Nietzsche, the famous German philosopher whose teachings are taught to Lily by an elderly man named Adolf.

Modern, casual film-watchers won't have much use for "Baby Face", but it's an interesting film when put in historical context. Before Hollywood began implementing codes, censures and strictures, a number of somewhat daring films were made. These featured African Americans in fairly strong roles (afterwards, miscegenation laws were essentially used to rationalise kicking blacks off screen) and offered frank treatments of sex, sexism, violence and abuse. In "Baby Face's" case, we have the tale of a sexually abused young woman who understandably grows to hate men, people and perhaps the world itself. This persecution then fuels Lily's perceived right to persecute others. Believing exploitation to be "natural", a "fundamental part of reality", she sleeps with and scams everybody, until she wins the chance to essentially inherit a mega-bank. Lily abruptly turns this prize down, however, having learnt the value of true love, kindness and so forth. Written during The Great Depression, the film's very much a parable about nihilistic, soulless social systems, and a plea for ethics and moral, kinder social relationships.

The film's Nietzschean subtext (and its and character called Adolf) is typically used to link "Baby Face" to The Third Reich. But the film predates Hitler's nefarious scheming and its highly unlikely that its writers were even aware of Hitler at the time. The notion that Hitler was fond of Nietzsche is itself a fabrication (Mein Kampf reveals his love for Schopenhauer, he doesn't mention Nietzsche), largely cooked up by Western and German propaganda, the former trying to demonize, the latter trying hard to build a cult of personality (and German Exceptionalism).

"Baby Face" also highlights your typical mainstream misreadings of Nietzsche. Lily, like most (typically the socially maladjusted) who misread and misapply Nietzsche's readings, believes it to be her right to become an "Ubermensch", exercise her "will to power" and exploit and bully those deemed "inferior". This kind of misappropriation of Nietzsche, a rationalisation for what is essentially fascism and egomania, is largely a result of the book "The Will To Power", essentially a forgery attributed to Nietzsche but really assembled by Nietzsche's racist, anti-semitic, proto-Nazi sister during and after his death. She took one liners and many comments from his manuscripts and assembled them into a book which obliterated all proper context and was designed to be inflammatory. It was her personal goal to start a "pure Aryan" civilisation. Nietzsche himself hated nationalism, often wrote in defence of Jews, and promoted self mastery, not the mastery of others. While branded a nihilist, nihilism is also precisely what Nietzsche sought to combat, through the creation of better values and a trans-valuation of oppressive old ones. And though his writings on the overman are usually twisted to imply the creation of supermen who rule "over other men", what he intended was completely different. The overman must get over his own nature, and self-reflexively divert the energy of primitive impulses, sacrificially, into culturally, higher or socially beneficial activities. Nietzsche would also write that no two overmen are the same; each of us values things differently and therefore one overman may not be the same as others. This is a far cry from the absolutism of fascism.

8.5/10 - Worth one viewing.
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5/10
She gets ahead in the worst way...
HotToastyRag30 September 2018
If you've ever seen a "seal of approval" during the credits of an old movie, you might have wondered what it meant. The Hays Code, enacted in 1934, prohibited films from showing excessive amounts of sex, violence, and immoral behavior. It's a fascinating set of rules that I recommend you read up on; I took a college course on it and was riveted! Why was the code put into place? Because films in the early 1930s were a little too "nasty" for William Hays's taste. Baby Face has been credited to one of the main movies that got under his skin and inspired him to censor future films.

Barbara Stanwyck stars as a poor, young woman growing up in intolerable circumstances. It's no secret that she has been taken advantage of; her father frequently encourages her to sleep with men who spend money in his speakeasy. When he dies, Barbara decides to turn her life around. Rather than give up sex for nothing, she'll use sex to get ahead in the world. There's a famous clip included in many old montages where Barbara is applying for a job. The man behind the desk asks, "Have you had any experience?" She looks him up and down and answers, "Plenty."

Baby Face is chalk full of sexual innuendos, escapades, and exchanges of favors for favors. While there's no nudity or actual sex scenes, there are no secrets in this movie; it's very clear what she's doing.

With familiar faces of George Brent, Theresa Harris, John Wayne, and Nat Pendleton, this is a very famous Pre-Code film that you'll want to watch if you like seeing how old movies "got away with" scandalous topics. Rent this steamy flick with your sweetie pie for a fun evening!
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