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7/10
Superior, Under-rated and Nearly Forgotten Soaper Has Everything!
Harold_Robbins1 September 2007
This is a superior and under-rated "woman's picture" that really has all the elements of the classic weeper: star-crossed lovers, twists of fate, and self-sacrifice. It also has a sterling performance from Bette Davis which gives a strong indication of why she would soon be a superstar and regarded as the screen's best actress: Her belief in a character could suffuse it with passion and poignancy and transcend the shallowness of the accompanying story. She's supported by an excellent cast - Henry Fonda (in a basically thankless role), the ever-reliable Donald Crisp (her showdown scene with him oddly foreshadows similar scenes with Gladys Cooper in NOW, VOYAGER), Mary Phillips (in a role that in a later version would obviously have gone to Thelma Ritter), who was, at the time, Mrs. Humphrey Bogart (in the same year's MARKED WOMAN Davis would appear with Mayo Methot, the next Mrs. B., and Ian Hunter. Edmund Goulding, who excelled at this kind of thing, wrote and directed it - he would later direct Davis in two other notable soapers, DARK VICTORY (one of her most celebrated performances, as Judith Traherne), and THE GREAT LIE (for which Mary Astor won a Best Supporting Actress Oscar). It's all served up in the best Warner Bros. tradition, but doesn't seem to be as well-remembered as other such films of the era, such as MAGNIFICENT OBSESSION, STELLA DALLAS, or MY FOOLISH HEART.
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5/10
such promise,...but bogged down with the sappiest plot
planktonrules19 May 2006
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This is exactly the sort of movie that must have infuriated Bette Davis. After all, her acting was stupendous--with an incredible emotional range and fantastic acting--it was just so realistic she carried the film all by herself. AND, despite all her great acting, the film was a sappy, soggy, soapy mess! It's because the writing, to put it charitably, stunk! The film was stylistically dated when it appeared in 1937--and was just way too melodramatic and soap-opera-like.

Bette is a sweet lady who was unfortunately married at a very young age to a gangster. When the movie began, the thug had been dead for years and Bette had tried very hard to put this past behind her and create a whole new life for herself. You could tell that despite this early experience, she was a real decent lady. So decent that her boss (Ian Hunter) and a rich immature brat (Henry Fonda) fell for her.

Well, she eventually elopes with rich-guy Fonda, but on their wedding night Fonda's overbearing father Donald Crisp confronts them and demands they have the marriage annulled. Bette could see that she was about to lose Fonda and so she makes a hasty retreat. Fonda NEVER tries to follow her or get her back.

Several years pass. Bette now has a child that was conceived during their honeymoon (that only lasted a few hours--barely enough time to even hope to conceive a child!) and Fonda has remarried to some rich society lady. Bette doesn't bother trying to get in touch with Fonda because she logically reasons that if he didn't return for her, it wasn't worth telling him about the kid and getting him to return.

Now at this point, the movie has been pretty good and not too sappy. Unfortunately, this was a synopsis of only the first half of the film. Later, Ian Hunter dies and Bette is accused of causing this death or having an affair with him, Fonda FINALLY returns and his father tries to steal the baby, and you find out Fonda's wife is in a wheel chair and Bette decides to give this other woman the baby?!?!?!?!?!?!? This didn't make any sense, but considering there were MANY more plot elements that all took place in the last half of the film, it's not worth trying to figure any of this out! Giving away the baby when she loved it? Hmmm. This sounds highly reminiscent of STELLA DALLAS and countless other soapy films. Bette Davis playing this super-martyr isn't very attractive or interesting.

THEN, after giving up the baby, she finds out some time later that Fonda's wife has died (that was nice of her) and she and Henry and the baby are all reunited for a sappy,....I mean "happy" ending.

The movie was lousy but still gets a 5 for Miss Davis' wonderful performance and that's about all. Everyone else, frankly, stunk--including milquetoast Fonda in his most forgettable role. And, the writers should be ashamed of themselves.

This film is ONLY for Bette Davis fans--others will no doubt be put off by the plot.
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6/10
early Davis melodrama
blanche-217 May 2011
Bette Davis is "That Certain Woman" in this 1937 remake of "The Trespasser." Davis is the widow of a mobster killed in the Saint Valentine's Day massacre. Now she works for a businessman Lloyd Rogers (Ian Hunter) and uses the name Mary Donnell. She has two men in love with her: her boss Lloyd and a man from a wealthy family, Jack Merrick (Henry Fonda). Knowing who she is thanks to a news story, Merrick's dad (Donald Crisp) is violently opposed to the marriage, but she and Jack marry. They break up right after the honeymoon, thanks to the dad, but during the honeymoon, Mary conceived Jack Jr. Jack goes off to Paris and marries Flip (Anita Louise), not knowing anything about the baby. Meanwhile, the unhappily married Lloyd is hanging around Mary.

Very melodramatic and dated film in the Stella Davis sacrifice vein, with both Davis and Fonda giving excellent performances. Fonda in those days was Jane Fonda with a man's haircut - the resemblance is there for all to see. He's adorable. Also as an actor, he was more energetic and earnest; later, he became more internalized, and in my opinion, less interesting. Davis sports an ugly hair-do (except when she's either just waking up or going to bed).

Very likable stars, and the story will keep you interested, even if it is dated.
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Bette Davis meets "Stella Dallas"
hrd196317 March 2007
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The kind of contrived mess that gives the term "women's picture" a bad name. Bette Davis is the former gun moll turned respectable legal secretary who marries a wealthy, irresponsible weakling (Henry Fonda, poorly miscast). When Fonda's bully of a father (indomitable Donald Crisp) has the marriage annulled after just one day, a distraught Davis runs off, not knowing she and Fonda have conceived a child. When the lovers are finally reunited years later, Fonda has been married to a woman of his own social standing (radiant Anita Louise). The new wife, confined to a wheelchair following a car accident (the result of Fonda's reckless drinking), shows not a shred of bitterness toward her husband and, in fact, pleads with Davis to assume her role as Fonda's wife since the wife herself is unable to give Fonda the child he has always wanted. What Davis does next will come as no surprise to fans of this sort of tripe but Davis, cast against type as a self-sacrificing mother, is vibrantly warm and pretty and her performance surprisingly free of artifice.
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7/10
Americanized Madame Butterfly...
rrubendu5 April 2005
I actually liked this picture. The story loosely parallels that of Madame Butterfly...and if you see it in that light, it doesn't seem all that over the top. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the writer had the idea of updating Madame Butterfly...I visually these guys in wrinkled shirtsleeves bending over their old Royal typewriters chomping on cigars..."Yeah...Madame Butterfly...that's the ticket...only she's not a prostitute, that won't work....but a fallen woman...but a noble one....she's a bootlegger's widow...yeah! that's the ticket...she marries a playboy, he dumps her, marries someone else...she waits for him....keep the faithful maid in the plot...has a kid....the husband comes back...remarried....she sends the kid off to live with her ex and then offs herself....yeah! It'll be a hit! Not a dry in the house."

I actually realized the similarity only in the last 15 minutes of the film when I got that awful yet familiar feeling in the pit of my stomach which always anticipates a mother's pending self-sacrifice. When Butterfly sees the American wife for the first time standing outside her little house on hill in Japan and realizes who she is and why she's there...it's really heartbreaking.

Anyway, despite the melodrama, the performances That Certain Woman are really very good, especially Davis's. She was a very intelligent actress, and understood what the camera would catch.

So, maybe you don't need to OWN this video, but I wouldn't disregard it entirely. Then go out and rent Frédéric Mitterrand's beautiful 1995 film of the opera. Heart-wrenching...
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6/10
Far too soapy, but some good performances
vincentlynch-moonoi16 May 2011
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As I sat watching this for the first time, I was amazed at the degree of "soapiness" of this film. The story is about Mary Donnell (Bette Davis), who had been married to a bootlegger killed during the St. Valentine's Day massacre. She becomes a secretary to a rich attorney who falls in love with her, but never directly reveals that love. Instead Mary marries the a pleasant, but spineless society man (Henry Fonda) who has a domineering father (Donald Crisp...with a full head of hair!). Dad has the marriage annulled. But, Mary is already pregnant and has the child without informing the father, who marries a woman of society, who is crippled in an auto accident caused by her new husband during their honeymoon in Europe. Mary becomes rich when her loving boss dies and leaves her most of his estate, but his wife, who believes Mary's son is her husband's illegitimate child, attempts to overturn the will. Mary makes the mistake of telling her ex that the boy is his, and then domineering grand-pop attempts to take the child away by having Mary declared an unfit mother. After meeting her ex's crippled wife, Mary inexplicably gives them the child and travels to Europe. The Fonda character's wife dies and he -- with the child -- follows Mary to Europe to reunite. On the way to Europe, the plane Fonda's character is on crashes into the hotel where Mary is staying, and everyone comes down with smallpox. OKAY...I MADE THAT LAST SENTENCE UP, but it almost seems logical considering the plot that Warners Brothers approved for this script. Too much...overload!!!!! Now, despite the ridiculousness of the plot, there is some pretty decent acting here. Specifically, Bette Davis acts her heart out. And, Donald Crisp certainly distinguishes himself, although not with a very nice character. Fonda is fine, but plays such a jerk that's it's impossible to like him much.

This is a film worth watching...once...but it won't find its way onto my DVD shelf.
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7/10
Crazy, mixed up movie, poorly edited, but has compensations to offer.
fisherforrest13 May 2006
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"Mary" was the widow of one of the gangsters killed in the infamous St. Valentine's Day Massacre in Chicago in 1929. Married at the age of 15 1/2, she had no regrets about his passing, but was constantly hounded by sensation seeking reporters for pictures and a story. At film's beginning she was working as the valued secretary to a wealthy lawyer, who was married, but half in love with his lovely and hard-working "administrative assistant". At the same time, "Mary" was being aggressively wooed by a weakling scion of a wealthy and over-protective father, who despised "Mary" for her past association with a gangster. She marries the weakling anyway, has a son with him, but the father manages to annul the marriage. Neither son nor father knows about the baby at this time. The weakling, of course, runs off to Paris (where else?), marries another girl known as "Flip", and promptly crashes them both in a drunken motor accident. The weakling survives relatively unscathed but "Flip" ends up in a wheel chair for life. Four years later, upon learning that he has a grandson, the domineering father institutes proceedings to wrest guardianship of the little boy from "Mary". How does it all turn out? Why, by one of the more ridiculous deus ex machina endings of which Hollywood was fond. I'll let you find it out for yourself, even though I did check the spoilers box. Oh, yes. I forgot to mention that the lawyer for whom "Mary" worked took suddenly ill and died, so that she came into a legacy of $500,000! How's that for bad luck?! Poor Henry Fonda! He's the weak-kneed son. I despised this character from his first appearance in the film. He's very aggressive when coming on to women, a veritable John Wayne, but an arrant coward when face-to-face with his father. That's not he worst of this crazy, mixed up movie. The editing is worse than poor, it is haphazard. Take the opening scenes which show "Mary" along with companion "Amy" on the way to the cemetery to deliver flowers to the grave of the gangster former husband. Why? "Mary" didn't like him, she said. They are accompanied by a mysterious "Fred", who looks to be a sort of guardian angel to "Mary", but who the heck is he? We never find out, and never see him again. Probably the explanation wound up on the cutting room floor. For that matter, who the heck is "Amy"? We do see her again, but we never find out if she is a relative, or what. Well, there are other mysteries never cleared up, but these will suffice as examples.

There are some compensations for sitting through this mess. Bette, Ian Hunter (the lawyer), and Anita Louise, together make it worth a watch. The scene in which "Mary" and "Flip" meet is very good indeed. As for Henry Fonda, it is maybe not his finest hour, but not even a Barrymore could have made you empathise with this character. Perhaps it attests to his ability as an actor that we do detest his character so much, and the same can be said of Donald Crisp, who plays the mean-spirited father. You will have trouble resisting the impulse to hiss.
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6/10
Despite hectic plotting, excellent star performances...
moonspinner5511 May 2006
Secretary Bette Davis has her dishonorable past unearthed after a reporter breaks the story that she's the widow of a notorious gangster once involved in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre; this leads to the quick dissolution of Davis' even quicker marriage to Henry Fonda, but not before Bette can conceive a child! A few dry, amusing wisecracks in this remake of the silent drama "The Trespasser"--and some unintended laughs and head-scratching details as well. Davis keeps refusing offers of cigarettes (!), she types a letter to Fonda we never get to read, she packs her kid off without his toys and then blows forlornly on his whistle. The kid is a solemn tyke who seems to have a fixation on being a sailor, even while Fonda's new wife pays Davis a visit (in a wheelchair!) and trades confessions with her in front of a roaring fire which never seems to die down. Busy programmer would not be of much interest were it not for Bette's terrific performance; she's serious and focused--and sensitive when she should be--and she grounds this story in a bit of reality. Henry Fonda and the supporting players are also very good, especially Mary Phillips as Amy. The film opens confusingly and takes a while to get its bearings, yet the sequence where Bette meets her father-in-law for the first time is a superbly controlled dramatic moment in which everyone excels. Not a particularly witty or gripping picture, but certainly not bad, either. **1/2 from ****
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8/10
A quintessential soaper -- Davis shines.
brooklynjm16 May 2017
Yes, it's a ridiculous, confusing plot. Yes, the characterizations are clichéd archetypes. The portrayal of her son shows a child yanked around with what we would see today as neglect, or even cruelty. But David fully commits, and elevates the entire enterprise. She is showcased, and provides a subtlety and range of emotion far beyond the script, e.g., she makes her interaction with the child actor believable. Fonda hangs in there, but his character doesn't give him much to work with. And some scenes rise to her level -- especially the conversation with Anita Louise in her wheelchair. We see the characters reacting to one another in an unlikely and awkward plot contrivance, and simultaneously see two skilled actresses working together to make all this believable and even moving. Plus, the wheelchair action is ... remarkable. Davis looks great, beautifully photographed, well-lit, with the famous eyes showcased repeatedly, to great effect. The finale has to be seen to be believed. What the involved viewer expected - and dreaded - is suddenly revealed to have taken place, and the effect is -- hilarious relief. Certainly not a great film, but essential for those who appreciate and admire Davis.
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6/10
I'm with Fonda!
JohnHowardReid21 November 2017
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Director: EDMUND GOULDING. Screenplay: Edmund Goulding. Suggested by the 1914 stage play Outcast by Hubert Henry Davies. Photography: Ernest Haller. Film editor: Jack Killifer. Music: Max Steiner. Art director: Max Parker. Costumes designed by Orry-Kelly. Wardrobe master: Elmer Ellsworth. Wardrobe mistress: Mary Dery. Hair styles: Mary Donovan. Stills: Bert Six. Music director: Leo F. Forbstein. Grip: Stanley Young. Gaffer: Claude Hutchinson. Continuity girl: Alma Dwight. Property master: William L. Kuehl. Assistant director: Chuck Hansen. Unit manager: Robert Fellows. Sound recording: Dolph Thomas. Associate producer: Robert Lord.

Copyright 26 July 1937 by Warner Brothers Pictures, Inc. New York opening at the Strand: 15 September 1937. U.S. release: 18 September 1937. 93 minutes.

SYNOPSIS: Although loved by her employer, a successful lawyer, a gangster's widow marries the weakling son of a powerful tycoon who soon has her marriage annulled.

COMMENT: A partial remake of "The Girl from 10th Avenue" (1935) with Ian Hunter virtually repeating his role from that film. Davis, however, is no longer the girl, but the woman. And a very glamorous woman at that, though still, of course, supremely self-sacrificing.

In fact, it seems to have been Goulding's intention to load his screenplay with every cliché known to women's magazine fiction (including Madame Butterfly). Character, continuity, credibility - all simply go by the board.

Not that Bette minds in the least. As long as Haller's camera stays firmly focuses upon her (which it does) and she's indulged in the full "star treatment", she's happy. Ian Hunter presumably didn't mind either. He could now play the part standing on his head. But Henry Fonda was heard to object that his role was a thankless one that would hardly induce picture-goers to cheer in the aisles. His objections were brushed aside. It's Davis's movie. Flatteringly costumed and photographed (often in radiant close-up), Bette has a field day.

It's amazing how you can recognize Goulding's style (even if you come late and miss his name on the credits). Not only are close-ups liberally used to hold up the action throughout (always meticulously composed and beautifully lit), but the characters themselves are imbued with a larger-than-life quality (which I must admit some movie fans find attractive), which is further emphasized by somewhat stilted dialogue delivery and slow, mannered movements.

Not only does Davis benefit from this style of actor-coddling direction, but also Ian Hunter, Donald Crisp and Dwayne Day. Fonda is obviously putting up a fight. In his earlier scenes, he has reams of dialogue which he reels off at a commendably breakneck pace which must have had Goulding in a fury. No doubt he was pacified by Miss Davis, for the quicker Fonda's scenes were over and done with, the more the camera could linger on her brave fortitude and inward tears.

Yes, this is firmly Bette's movie. Aside from an occasional emphasis on the Ian Hunter character, and a bit of boring business with young Dwayne Day, plus a nod or two in the directions of Hugh O'Connell and Donald Crisp, the other players have little to do.

Anita Louise's role is ridiculously small. And as for the big line- up of character players, aside from Mary Phillips and Frank Darien, if you blink you'll miss them!
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4/10
Very CONTRIVED melodrama
kijii2 December 2016
Here, Davis plays a secretary, Mary Donnell, with a past: she was once married to a mobster when she was very young. He is now dead but the press will not let her forget her past and move forward. Jack Merrick , Jr. (Henry Fonda) is in love with Mary. He marries her—promising to stand on his own feet rather than living off of his wealthy father, (Donald Crisp). But Jack's father first forbids the marriage then, after they get married, he has it annulled, and sweeps Jack off to Europe.

However, Mary has Jack's baby and names him Jackie. She is emotionally supported by her maid, Amy (Mary Philips)-who here plays a role something like Thelma Ritter would play in later movies. Mary is also supported by her understanding boss, Lloyd Rogers (Ian Hunter), who has an unhappy marriage and is not-so-secretly in love with Mary. But, his love is unrequited.

As the years pass and little Jackie grows, Mary remains in love with Jack: she can't get him out of her mind. Jack marries in Europe and he and his wife, 'Flip' (Anita Louise), are in a bad car accident that leaves her in a wheelchair for life. When Jack and Amy return to America, they both re-enter Mary's life: Jack is introduced to, and falls in love with, his 4-year-old son. 'Flip' makes a point of visiting Mary to ask her to marry Jack so that he can have a 'full life' with Mary and little Jackie.

This is one of those Bette Davis melodramas in which she is asked to make personal sacrifice(s), but the movie has too MANY of these moments. In fact until the end, we are left wondering who she will have to sacrifice: Jack?—Jackie?—both?-neither? The only 'villains' of this movie are Jack's father, who continually foils the love between Mary and Jack, and the tabloid newspaper reporters who won't leave Mary alone.

Surprisingly, the other women, of the movie (Mrs. Rogers, Flip, and even Amy)--who should resent Mary--are always way TOO understanding towards her. Not only does the movie suffer from an excess of these moments but the ending is WAY contrived too.

It's too bad, because the movie seemed to show some promise at the beginning. All this aside, Bette Davis' acting is still the great stuff that we have learned to expect from her.
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8/10
A lover story about a poor woman and a rich man
jeaninedavenport16 May 2011
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I was delighted to find another Bette Davis movie that I hadn't seen. I loved the goodness of the women in the story. I thought the acting was excellent. The movie highlighted the dilemmas women can face when they operate with genuine love and self-sacrifice as a motive. I noticed that the two young wives looked remarkably alike, and I wondered if it were by design.I get that the story might be a bit of a stretch, but truth is no stranger than fiction, and the story was plausible for me. I would watch this movie again in time. I enjoyed seeing such a young Bette Davis and Henry Fonda. One thing I especially enjoyed about the movie is that it was operating in the social conscience of the time.
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6/10
OK Soaper
utgard1411 January 2014
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Gangster's widow (Bette Davis), trying to live her life out of her notorious husband's shadow, finds herself in more man trouble. She marries playboy Henry Fonda but his father breaks that up right away. She winds up having Fonda's baby without him knowing. Her married boss, Ian Hunter, is in love with her so he agrees to take care of her and her baby. But then he dies. There's more to it than all of this but as you can see it's a kitchen sink soaper for sure. I don't normally like these types of movies enough to rate them more than 5. But Bette's acting is good enough to bump it up. Fonda is miscast. He tries hard but the part just doesn't fit him. Ian Hunter is good, as are Donald Crisp and Anita Louise. Sidney Toler of Charlie Chan fame plays a detective. If you're a Bette fan, you'll obviously want to check this out.
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5/10
Bending Over Backwards for Love
nycritic12 May 2006
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With a title that wouldn't seem out of place in a Harlequin Romance, THAT CERTAIN WOMAN is Edmund Goulding's ultra-soap opera of the weepiest kind. The story of the super self-reliant Mary Donnell, a former bootlegger's wife turned attorney's faithful and efficient secretary. It seems that they might be engaged in something a little over-the-sweater, or maybe he likes her too much and she's just too good to say no, but the Hays Code filtered any naughty-naughty. Where Mary should have been more independent, she's now this saint dressed in self-sacrifice so extreme it gave me a headache at times and made me think Bette's equally self-sacrificing character in ALL THIS AND HEAVEN TOO was closer to Mike Tyson fighting Evander Holyfield. Translation: she made that character fierce in comparison. In short -- Mary Donnell, while is totally and absolutely in love with her boss' client's son Jack Merrick (Henry Fonda, a bit colorless), is unable to fight Jack's mean old father who doesn't want Her in the way. She is, in fact, the quintessential "telenovela" heroine: good to the nth degree, noble to ridiculous levels, passive to the point that you want to smack her like a piñata and see if you get a reaction, sad, and able to bend over backwards farther than Linda Blair doing her spider-walk in order to let things happen, even if it means letting go of her son and even leaving the country. Not that this is a bad thing: it's kept the romance genre alive and well and thriving in newsstands and drugstores alike, but to make a full-length movie out of this without some degree of irony is a bit much. I would have wanted something to happen, let's say, that a monkey-wrench be thrown in for good measure, but bah, this is soap, sap, and sugar down to the bitter end.
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6/10
Bette in melodrama
SnoopyStyle26 March 2022
Mary Donnell (Bette Davis) has a checkered past as a gangster's young widow. Now, she's lawyer Lloyd Rogers' secretary. She falls for wealthy playboy client Jack Merrick (Henry Fonda) and they get a quickie marriage. His father disapproves of her.

It's a melodrama with star Bette Davis and future star Henry Fonda. Bette is able to keep the story moving with her superior acting. Fonda is a little miscast although this is very early in his career. He hasn't settled into his everyman genuineness. He's still a good romantic lead. He isn't able to bring out the flaws in his character. In the end, this is mostly about Bette and she makes this work.
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6/10
One Year Before Jezebel
DKosty12316 May 2011
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This light weight has the look of an assembly line romance movie of the 1930's. Bette Davis & Henry Fonda get a few on screen kisses. This one has an only so so script which is what holds back the finished product.

If your fan of Fonda or Davis, this is worth a look. Jezebel is definitely better.

Interesting the detective in this movie is played by Syndey Toler who would later take over the series Charlie Chan from Warner Oland. Fonda needs approval from his father to live with Davis, but once he gets it, she balks and decides to run away.

At the end of the movie they reconnect- but the story is left open ended as to where they go from here. Happy Birthday today to Henry Fonda.
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9/10
Of Its Time
rsternesq25 March 2012
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People who think this film is too 1930's don't remember a time before abortion was the answer to every inconvenience. This is a fine movie and yes, it is of its time. Men were and remain selfish because women, in their affection allow it. Women allow it because they love. Children then and now are the prize and often the lure. Bette is marvelous, as good as ever. To be honest, Fonda is his usual boring self. I liked the lawyer but he had to be disposed of because he loved too well. For him the boy wasn't the prize. I honestly think this is a good film for exploring the darker side of Stella Dallas. I also think some of the other reviewers could do with a time machine, or at least a moment of contemplation that the past is at least a different country.
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4/10
Women Are Noble, Men Are Dogs
bkoganbing26 January 2009
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It's a good thing that the following year from That Certain Woman, Bette Davis and Henry Fonda got to make Jezebel and acquit themselves well in a drama of substance. It certainly showed that as a team they could do better than That Certain Woman and have it be the only film they would be judged on as a screen team.

For such a noble thing Bette's been around the track quite a bit and gets a few more turns before the film ends. As a teen she marries a notorious hoodlum who is killed in a gun battle and she's trying to live it down. She's working under an assumed name as a secretary to wealthy attorney Ian Hunter. When exposed Hunter doesn't care because he's in a rather loveless marriage to the rather frigid Katharine Alexander.

Bette likes him OK, but her heart is set on playboy Henry Fonda. They do get married, but Fonda's father Donald Crisp comes running after his son and gets the marriage annulled. Of course he can't annul what Fonda left to remember him by.

Bette doesn't tell him about their kid and later Fonda marries socialite Anita Louise who is later paralyzed from a car crash. If you're a devotee of soap operas the plot can take any number of directions from here and I won't say.

If That Certain Woman were made today it would be debuting on the Lifetime Channel. From what I've just described there's enough material here for a dozen soaps. One common thing I noticed in this film. The women are all noble and self sacrificing, especially Anita Louise. The men however are all dogs, between the lusting in his heart Hunter, the weakling Fonda, the tyrannical Crisp, even the reporter who tries to blackmail Davis, Hugh O'Connell. Now that's an article of faith to get on the Lifetime Channel.

Bette and Hank do their best with it all, but there are enough tears to fill Lake Erie in this film and suds enough to wash the uniforms at the Great Lakes Naval Training station.
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4/10
One of the sappiest plots in film history
Michael-11031 July 2000
Audiences will groan at the character of Mary Donnell. Bette Davis is normally looking out for number one--and she's definitely her good old self in the first half of the movie. The widow of a gangster, Donnell has become a super-competent legal secretary for a respected attorney in a big firm. She fends off unwanted press attention and generally handles herself quite well as a tough single girl in the big city.

She becomes the mistress of her married boss at the law firm (although the Hays Office undoubtedly required the removal of any breath of sexual content here, it should be pretty obvious to all what is going on). In the second half of the movie, which focusses on Jack Merrick (Henry Fonda), whom Donnell has always loved, she achieves peaks of self-sacrifice that will send you staggering to the bathroom to throw up.

This is the sort of film that gives soap opera a bad name.
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5/10
Heart lost underneath the suds
TheLittleSongbird13 March 2020
Was actually expecting quite a lot from 'That Certain Woman'. Yes it did sound very melodramatic, but there was a good deal of talent involved. Bette Davis gave many great performances, the best of which legendary status, as did Donald Crisp, who did a lot of big supporting roles in a varying filmography (but nearly always one of the better things about the not so good films). Henry Fonda was no stranger to good performances either and Edmund Goulding's other collaborations with Davis ranged from above average to great.

Not so sadly with 'That Certain Woman', which is perhaps their weakest collaboration. Through no fault of Davis, who is actually the best thing about it, there are other good things and it started off promisingly. All of that is unfortunately undermined by the film falling apart in the second half, where the amount of soap suds that lingers even after the film is over leaves a bitter aftertaste and the character writing certainly should have much more balanced and less simplistic.

Davis is as said the best thing about 'That Certain Woman' and is quite wonderful. A wide range of emotions very powerfully conveyed, even when the film falls apart. It is such a shock seeing Crisp play such an unpleasant character, he plays him very well and menacingly without overacting. The other female characters are sympathetically portrayed, especially Anita Louise.

'That Certain Woman' is lovingly made, with a real sense of mood in the photography and the production values overall have a lot of class. Max Steiner's score is sumptuous and swells and sweeps in distinctive fashion. Goulding directs tastefully in the first half, which is quite charming and affecting.

All that is undone in the second half, where the melodrama gets excessively heavy, the sentimentality makes for at two trips to the bathroom to try and wash out the soap suds welling up in the mouth and things do get silly to the point of ridiculousness. The amount of self-sacrifices Mary makes is so much that it becomes nauseating. The ending somehow rings false and is especially mawkish. The script gets increasingly stilted and soapy, and the momentum in the pace really goes.

Fonda looks uncomfortable in a role that really does not suit him, got the sense too that he himself knew that. Ian Hunter has too little to work with and doesn't have an awful lot of presence, at least he fares better than Fonda. Did have a problem with how the characters are written, especially the male ones, where too few of the characters have much dimension and are either written as too perfect or too cruel.

On the whole, watchable but with a lot that doesn't work. 5/10
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4/10
Waste of time weeper.
st-shot13 June 2011
In spite of it's impressive leads and the usually sure handed direction of Edmund Goulding That Certain Kind of Women is a lumbering, mawkish an implausible melodrama. Disjointed at times you get the feeling a reels missing.

Where do we begin. Ex-moll Mary Donnell is trying to go straight as an executive secretary for Lloyd Rogers who though married has a thing for Mary. Mary though falls for Jack Merrrick Jr. (Henry Fonda) much to the chagrin of Jack Sr. (Donald Crisp) who gets sonny's marriage annulled by playing hardball with her past. The two part he remarries and she has his kid. Years pass, Rogers dies and leaves her a ton of cash. Junior comes back finds out and vows to leave his crippled wife who pays a visit to Mary before they run off. Enough already.

Your drowning in suds in no time in this 30s chick flic that never finds a way to amp up the passion with characters that are tender sensitive and dull beyond belief. Davis stands around looking cow eyed most of the way while Fonda wimps about and Crisp remains stone like. Tina Louise rolls in on a wheelchair in the last act as wife "Flipp" and wrestles with Davis in another cloying moment of tear jerk to see who will make the greater sacrifice. No contest, the audience has.
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5/10
Convoluted soaper with frantic performances.
mark.waltz22 November 2011
Warning: Spoilers
Bette goes down Kay Francis territory in this 30's women's film, not getting a break from the men in her life (which are many), yet finding sympathy in the oddest places-her men's wives.

She is the widow of a gangster and is being followed around by a reporter out for a scoop on "Where are yesterday's gangsters?". Now working for a highly respectable lawyer (Ian Hunter), she runs into an old beau (Henry Fonda) whose tyrant father (Donald Crisp) dominates his life and instantly sets out to keep Fonda and Davis apart. When they elope, Crisp confronts the two on their honeymoon, and Davis decides to leave behind the man she loves, apparently realizing she's married to a wimp. Guess what happens nine months later. Yep, Davis is now a single mother, and has managed to keep Fonda from finding out about their son. Hunter, who is a loveless marriage with Katharine Alexander, makes Davis his mistress, something his wife doesn't seem to mind. But when tragedy strikes and the two women are snapped together in a photo, the scandal sheet makes it appear like a slugfest. Fonda turns up, having married a sweet society lady (Margaret Lindsay), but she was crippled in a car accident while on their honeymoon, so he is desperate to get Davis back. Papa Crisp makes another threat against Davis, so she must take drastic steps to ensure that he does not destroy her life again.

It is ironic that Davis's married name from her first husband is Mary Haines, the same name as the cheated on wife in the then hit Broadway play "The Women", filmed two years later by MGM. Like MGM's Norma Shearer (Mary in the movie version of "The Women"), Davis was queen of her studio (Warner Brothers), having just taken over that title from the reigning queen of mother love sob stories (Kay Francis). The problem in the movie is that it is so unbelievable that a seemingly tough mob widow would not stand up to the threats of the nasty father, played by the normally likable Donald Crisp. I found his dialogue to be so inane that I cringed every time he came on screen. All of the men are one dimensional-Crisp is totally nasty, Fonda is a wimp, and Hunter is so extremely noble he appears to be the male Ann Harding. There are nice scenes between Davis and the two women in her lover's lives, and Dwane Day gives a cute performance as Davis's four year old son. Mary Philips is also memorable as Davis's devoted companion.

Warner Brothers had their share of mother love stories, most notably several with Kay Francis, including one of my all time favorites, the same year's "Confession". Those ones are better recommended than this one. Davis would fare better two years later as an unwed mother in the excellent "The Old Maid".
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2/10
That certain abomination
jrhpax19 May 2003
First, I love Bette Davis. This movie is among the worst she ever made. Bette Davis wonderful at playing modern women, especially outspoken, bitchy or evil women. She showed little talent for playing mealy-mouthed, self-sacrificing women. I think most of her fans will be appalled by this film, especially by the ending, which will leave most modern audiences speechless. Thank God that the following year, Bette co-starred with Henry Fonda in a classic, "Jezebel," and got her career back on track.
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3/10
A Gangster's Widow
lugonian2 December 2017
THAT CERTAIN WOMAN (Warner Brothers, 1937), Written and Directed by Edmund Goulding, stars the youthful blonde Bette Davis in a melodramatic remake to Edmund Goulding's own directed edition to THE TRESPASSER (United Artists, 1929) starring Gloria Swanson and Robert Ames. With a few alterations about the character, now a gangster's widow, and the name change from Marion to Mary (plus opening and closing changes from the original), much of the plot remains the same. Though Davis would NOT be awarded an Academy Award nomination as did Swanson for her performance, it did pave the way for others, and better melodramatic productions for Davis' resume during her acclaimed peak years (1937-1946).

Mary Donnell (Bette Davis) is a gangster's widow who comes to the cemetery to visit the tomb of her deceased husband, Al Haines (1899- 1929), who was gunned down at the 1929 Valentine's Day massacre. Accompanied by her best friend, Amy (Mary Phillips), Mary is photographed by Virgil Whittaker (Hugh O'Connell), a reporter out to get a good story on her four years after the incident. Mary works for a law firm of Rogers, Alden and French, with Lloyd Rogers (Ian Hunter), as her employer. Although a married man, he secretly loves Mary, unaware that she's in a relationship with his good friend and millionaire playboy, Jack Merrick (Henry Fonda), whom she has known for three years, now back from Europe. After their wedding, Jack and Mary honeymoon at the Lake Hotel, only to be interrupted by the arrival of Jack's father (Donald Crisp) and a couple of detectives (Sidney Toler and Tim Henning) who have traced them there. As much as Merrick disapproves of the marriage and the girl's notorious background (like getting married at 16), Mary sees Jack doesn't have enough fight in him to stand up to his father, causing her to walk out on him and have Merrick annul their marriage. During the course of four years, Mary has become a mother to Jack's son (Dwane Day), while Jack has married his childhood sweetheart and debutante, Flip Carson (Anita Louise), whose honeymoon is met with a serious automobile accident that permanently cripples his young wife. As Amy becomes a full-time babysitter to little Jackie, Mary resumes her job working for Mr. Rogers. News spread about Mary's reputation when the seriously ill Rogers comes to and dies in Mary's apartment with his wife (Katharine Alexander) at present. Rogers' last will and testimony leaves Mary and her son $50,000, causing the media to question about Jackie, the "mystery" child. The mystery is cleared upon Jack's return to be told by Mary that the 4-year-old boy happens to be his son. Problems arise when Merrick Sr. returns to the scene to have Mary's son taken away for her being an unfit mother. Others featured in the cast are: Minor Watson (Clark Tilden); Ben Weldon (Harry Aqueilli); Norman Willis (Fred); Frank Faylen and Willard Parker (Newspaper Reporters), among others.

Very leisurely paced during its 94 minutes, THAT CERTAIN WOMAN would be the start of what could be categorized as formula Bette Davis material. Under Goulding's direction, Davis is honored with enough close-ups to indicate the movie very much belongs to her. Even with these close-ups, Davis shows how beautiful she can actually be, ranging from short hair-cut bob to long hair shoulder spread. Davis works very well with Henry Fonda (who was better cast here than Robert Ames was in THE TRESPASSER), and would work with Fonda once more the classic Civil War era story, JEZEBEL (1938), the film that would win Davis her second Academy Award as Best Actress. With Anita Louise's character discussed much in the story, and her name listed third in the casting credits, her character of Flip appears 72 minutes into the story, with no more than ten minutes on screen. She, too, gives a sympathetic performance as the crippled girl, while Donald Crisp gives a forceful performance as Fonda's strict father. The lighter moments belong to Hugh O'Connell as the photographer close friend of Mary who helps her through the rough spots. In spite of its slow-pacing that could bore first-time viewers, THAT CERTAIN WOMAN did have plenty of reruns through much of the 1970s and early 1980s on broadcast television late shows to become familiar Bette Davis material.

Formerly distributed to video cassette, THAT CERTAIN WOMAN, which commonly plays on Turner Classic Movies along with similar Davis movie titles as FRONT PAGE WOMAN (1935) and MARKED WOMAN (1937), would be more of interest to fans to that certain woman herself, Bette Davis (or Henry Fonda perhaps) more than the Edmund Goulding directorial effort itself. (**1/2)
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