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5/10
Old Pappy
bkoganbing9 April 2018
Harry Carey in one of his last starring westerns takes center stage in The Law West Of Tombstone where after the failure of a big con he tried on Gilded Age millionaire Clarence Kolb in New York City returns west to more familiar surroundings. Carey is a fast draw in a pinch, but like a pair of TV brothers named Maverick prefers to talk his way out of a situation.

He's also got a daughter who knows not that he's her father in Jean Rouverol and a protege of sorts in Tim Holt who prefers more traditional type outlawry than con games. Holt and Carey are at loggerheads most of the film, but they like each other. There's a bunch of outlaws, the McQuinn brothers that nobody has any use for hanging around as well.

A lot of the film seems not to make any sense. I think it's because RKO butchered it in the editing department. Holt and Carey are the show, they have some great scenes together.

I'd like to think that after all is settled in this film Carey took Evelyn Brent back from Clarence Kolb, married her and raised a pair of fine sons named Bret and Bart. He sure could have been their old pappy.
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5/10
Draw Like Hickok And Lie Like Munchausen
bkoganbing3 September 2011
Harry Carey plays a combination character in the lead role of The Law West Of Tombstone. He's a quick draw and a deadly shot in the tradition of Wild Bill Hickok and can spin a yarn better than Baron Munchausen. Those talents have served him well in his career in this film and like Judge Roy Bean, he's declared himself the law in the newly forming town of Martinez, Arizona as Mayor and Justice of the Peace.

This was obviously a more ambitious undertaking of a film than what arrived for the movie-going public of 1938. There are whole chunks of this that obviously were left on the cutting room floor and you have to bridge quite a lot to get a coherent story.

Tim Holt plays a young protégé of sorts for Carey, a young outlaw he'd like to see settle down. And Evelyn Brent plays Carey's daughter who doesn't know she's his daughter. But this film is strictly Carey's show. Allan Lane who later was a cowboy hero himself plays a young outlaw who shoots it out with Holt and comes up short and dead.

It's an unusual western and one I'd like to have seen a director's cut of, but that sure isn't likely.
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7/10
Not Your Usual "B" Western, For Sure...
museumofdave13 January 2019
In the usual world of the "B" Western, character and plot are usually fairly straightforward, and one knows after the first ten minutes not only how it will end, but who is going to end up with the girl--if anyone does. In this endearing oddity, your appreciation may depend on your tolerance for eccentricity, whethere it is enjoying that brilliant veteran of so many silent western Harry Carey appearing as the town's benevolent liar, a jolly man who can also lead a crowd, but who is a master of social manipulation. Tim Holt, ostensibly the star and hero, is a sort of moody but well-scrubbed hero, capable of two expressions--one petulant and pouty, and the other agreeable and smiley...there seems to be no room for any kind of thoughtful expression. He and the judge share a love-hate relationship, and into it are thrown all sorts of beloved character actors, whether Ward Bond, bare-chested and speaking with a Mexican-Italian accent, or Charles "Ming" Middleton, lurking at a poker table, sulking. The treatment of the native American tribe is totally insensitive and ludicrous, especially when Carey convinces them to leave the land next to a river for the seashore of sunny California. In short, if you want some reliable old-fashioned Cowboy Action, a la Roy Rogers or Hoppy, this ain't it. But if you want a fast-paced curiosity from the "B" movie that can be a lot of fun in so many ways, this can be a delight!
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Fun Opportunity to See Harry Carey in Starring Role
icknay27 July 2003
Oftentimes conventional western that regularly heads off in unconventional directions. Harry Carey (senior, not junior) is delightful as very odd character Bill Barker. Head of dancehall girls/prostitutes is named Mrs Mustache! Just read that Harry Carey, Jr is 82 and made more than 40 westerns in his career. Catch his old man in this one for a treat and movie history.
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7/10
Harry Carey A Western
boblipton2 March 2023
Swindler Harry Carey gets driven out of New York, then Laredo, and keeps on heading west, until he becomes mayor of a small town, taking care of his daughter, Jean Rouverol, and making a pal out of Tim Holt.

If you think about Carey playing Judge Roy Bean, Holt playing Billy the Kid, and Evelyn Brent playing Lily Langtree in a long and whopper-filled plot that leads to the two of them winning the gunfight at the OK Corral, it all makes a rough sort of sense, as well as why they changed all the names for this definitely A Western. The movie is lavishly, almost wastefully cast, with Clarence Kolb, Paul Guilfoyle, Esther Muir, and George Irving.

It's fun, but I'd swap all the rest of it for more scenes of Carey grinning as he tells his tall tales about Kolb and Miss Brent introducing him to President Garfield.
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7/10
New Wave Western
michaelchager1 April 2023
There are some horses on dusty trails, cattle and shots fired. But this has little use for rustic scenery, stunts, boulders, stagecoach robberies, ranchers, gold mines and grifting frontier bankers of a B Western. This is urban, for adults, with a train robbery, politics, sex, comedy, iambic pentameter, relationships, surreal twists and the Western storytelling of Carey, Sr. Youthful Holt stirs the drink as he would in Ambersons and Sierra Madre and in his career. Like a B movie this pays less attention to acting, lighting, production values as might a Curtiz, but it has respectable photography and sound with a clear print. Ward Bond, always a star in any role, delivers a memorable cameo. Native Americans here are at least presented with authentic costuming and intelligence, if comedically, not as inarticulate enemies.
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3/10
Who knew Fellini directed a Western?
JimB-41 August 2003
Well, Fellini didn't direct this one, but at times it sure seems like it. This is one odd-ball movie, with plotlines that appear out of nowhere and disappear into the same place, character motivations David Lynch couldn't understand, and behavior that sometimes suggests that everyone in the film and everyone who made it was hitting the peyote a little too hard. Harry Carey well plays Bill Barker, and one presumes he is the hero of the piece, though he gets enough undisputed disrespect from respectable characters that sometimes it's hard to know whether he's the moral center or just a none-too-bright gasbag. Tim Holt is good as the Tonto Kid, but everyone else is either not very good or is just mired so deep in the confusion that it's not possible to distinguish their talent. It's almost impossible to disentangle the plotlines, although it's fairly clear that one of them involves Barker's attempts to make a good life for the daughter he never knew. The rest of it is pretty much a jumble, and the confrontations between Barker and the McQuinn gang, and in particular a bizarre game of Russian roulette between Barker and the Tonto Kid simply defy rational explanation. And what in the world was Ward Bond doing in this--not WHY was he in it, but WHAT was he doing? He appears to be channelling his John L. Sullivan character from "Gentleman Jim," funnelled through Pancho Villa. But the purpose and intent of the character are just two of the manifold mysteries of this weird little melange. Just about the strangest thing I've ever seen that wasn't meant to be strange.
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6/10
The Law West of Tombstone
coltras352 March 2024
Notorious liar, Bill Barker - who is banished westwards by the law - sets out to bring the law into force, west of Tombstone after talking the town people of Martinez into making him a mayor and judge. His first mission is to arrest the trigger-happy Tonto Kid, but soon they join forces against the notorious McQuinn gang.

The Law west of Tombstone is an unusual western with quirky humour, lots of engaging dialogue and a strong story. It has more characterisation and there's an air of looniness around the plot and characters. The acting honours go to Harry Carey who plays a notorious liar who becomes a mayor. He tells tall tales of his epic experiences - Tim Holt plays the Tonto Kid and Rocky Allan Lane is in a brief role before biting the dust. It can be a bit talky but don't expect a typical rootin' tootin' horse opera - the only major gunplay occurs at the end and quite a smoking one too.
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1/10
Read the reviews first!
JohnHowardReid12 October 2014
Warning: Spoilers
Now I know how Bosley Crowther got his job at The New York Times. He's really on the ball, that guy. He managed to follow the plot of The Law West of Tombstone with only a quarter of the trouble I had. I couldn't make head or tail of the movie at all. Come "The End" title and I was still up in the air, so I started to watch the film again. Half an hour in, I still couldn't catch on to the plot, so I threw in the towel. Is Harry Carey supposed to be a good guy pretending to be a bad guy or a bad guy pretending to be a good guy? Bosley infers that the Carey character is supposed to be both! Now why didn't I think of that? In fact, Bosley goes many steps further. He even tackles the Tim Holt character as well. I couldn't for the life of me sort out whether Tim was a good guy pretending to be a bad guy or a bad guy pretending to be a good guy. But Bosley infers that Tim was playing a good guy who becomes a bad guy who becomes a good guy. See, it's easy if you know your movies! Bosley even sorts out what Evelyn Brent is doing in the story. I assumed her character was a just a bit touched in the head. But no! Bosley tells us that she is actually the Carey character's daughter who is unaware that Carey is her dad – and that in any case, she thinks he is dead. It's absolutely wonderful how you can infer all this just by watching The Law West of Tombstone! I didn't get any of these points at all. I found the screenplay both utterly dull and wholly confusing. Of course, Bosley had an RKO Press Book to keep him on the right track, but I just slapped the excellent Warner Archive DVD on to the machine without doing any research at all. I don't like to know a movie's plot in advance. I like to watch it unfold without having any ideas as to how it will all turn out. That's a stupid quirk, I know, but I guess I'm stuck with it!
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4/10
Judge Roy Bean-ish.
planktonrules18 February 2022
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The film begins in 1881. Bill Barker (Harry Carey) arrives in New York City from the old west. He makes all sorts of claims and claims to be a big man...whereas in reality he's a con-man. Well, his play for suckers doesn't work and he's forced to return west. But even in Texas, he's known as a phoney and no-goodnick so he heads to the less developed land of Arizona Territory. There he is able to convince the dopey locals that he's a stand-up guy and they elect him mayor...and he appoints himself judge. Soon he is abusing the law for his own gain...mcuh like the legendary Judge Roy Bean, who he is no doubt modeled after in the story.

The acting by Carey is pretty good. As for the script, well, it's full of lots of cliches and not a single likable character. This is tough, as the film kind of pushes Bill on us like he is some sort of hero...though clearly he's not. As a result, I found the message very confusing and cliched.
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9/10
Old school western
braun-andrew17 February 2022
This is a nice old school western. Made back in the day like I used to watch as a child. Thanks for showing it TCM. No super heroes, no special effects, no in your face sex, just a darn good western. Thanks again!
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5/10
confusing.
ksf-220 April 2022
Confusing western. Starring two big names of the westerns... tim holt and harry carey. Cheesy fake accent by evelyn brent. Clarence kolb. For some reason, the town makes well-known criminal bill barker a judge. His first mission is to track down the tonto kid. But when they meet up, they seem like old buddies, rather than hunter and prey. Throw in a sub plot where barker's daughter doesn't know she's his kin. Now throw in a monkey, for cuteness, or something. Most of the story is barker shooting, bragging, and blustering. Not really sure what the main plot is... just the life of barker, i guess. Too many subplots going on. Directed by glenn tryon. Looks like he didn't do much acting after talkies started, but maybe that's just a coincidence. Did mostly writing and producing after that. Based on the story by clarence young. This was a pretty early role for holt; he died young of cancer.
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Quirky and memorable western types
jarrodmcdonald-120 August 2022
In the late 1930s, every major studio had a B-movie unit. Most of them produced B-westerns. Warner Brothers churned out quick oaters starring singing cowboy Dick Foran; Republic produced titles starring Gene Autry and Roy Goers; Universal had Johnny Mack Brown headline a series of B-westerns; and RKO signed George O'Brien.

One B-western script at RKO was given to Harry Carey instead of George O'Brien. This is probably because the lead character, an old mayor slash judge, fit Mr. Carey's persona better than it did the handsome O'Brien, who played more romantic heroes. THE LAW WEST OF TOMBSTONE has Carey dispensing wisdom and trying to help a hellion played by young Tim Holt, who ironically would unseat O'Brien as RKO's main B-western star in the 1940s.

In the story Holt is an outlaw that Carey wants to help go straight. The background for Carey's character is that he had previously experienced his own scrapes with the law and is now a reformed man the townsfolk of Tombstone look up to...obviously, a personage based on Judge Roy Bean. As for Holt's character, he shares more than a few similarities with Billy the Kid.

Added into the mix is a lovely gal played by Jean Rouverol, whom we might say resembles Calamity Jane. Despite different names being used for the trio, I am sure audiences would've been able to infer which famous figures had inspired these performances and enjoyed watching the tale unfold on screen.

Jean Rouverol was new to the western format, having previously worked in comedies, and she does a nice job here. She portrayed W. C. Fields' daughter in IT'S A GIFT (1934) a few years earlier at Paramount, and had a supporting role in RKO's ensemble drama about theater hopefuls, STAGE DOOR (1938). I should add that Miss Rouverol was the daughter of Aurania Rouverol, who created the Andy Hardy series for MGM.

Jean Rouverol would marry screenwriter Hugo Butler, who became blacklisted. She later wrote a book about their time abroad during the McCarthy era called 'Refugees from Hollywood.' She was one of the most influential professors I studied under at the University of Southern California. She taught me about the long-term effects of the blacklist, and a considerable deal about writing since her acting career ended up taking a backseat to her career as a writer for film and television.

As for Harry Carey, he had a long and varied career, going back to silent features in Hollywood. By this stage of the game, he typically was assigned supporting parts. So it's rather nice to see him have a lead role in a picture such as this one. He gives a somewhat grounded performance in a story populated by quirky and memorable western types. Most notable is his interaction with Evelyn Brent, as a gal who catches his eye.
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9/10
Excellent cast, surprising amount of fun make this a must see
morrisonhimself1 March 2023
Several actors, good to great actors, give among their best performances in this very enjoyable motion picture.

Clarence Upson Young is author of the original story and was co-writer, with John Twist, of the screenplay. So he gets credit for much of the clever, often even downright funny, dialogue.

On 28 February 2023, TCM unintentionally gave me a birthday present of some great Western movies. I should have been working but took the day off to watch my favorite genre of movies.

It included "Powdersmoke Range," a classic I had feared I would never get a chance to see. The iconic Harry Carey was in it as well as "The Law West of Tombstone."

With all the wonderful Westerns shown on this one day, the best of the day's presentations was "The Law West of Tombstone" -- and it's only coincidence that I live west of Tombstone, in Sierra Vista, Cochise County, Arizona.

We have a lot of Western history here, and I invite everyone to come visit. And at some time, I do hope you get to watch this excellent movie.
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Easygoing western with quirky characters and great frontier flavor
BrianDanaCamp30 May 2011
THE LAW WEST OF TOMBSTONE (1938) doesn't play like a standard Hollywood western, either A or B. It's more like what you'd get if you took two short stories based on a colorful, larger-than-life western character and merged them together and made a film out of it. It's much more character-driven than plot-driven. A handful of lively, eccentric characters with wildly varying agendas are thrown on screen together and let loose in a tiny Texas town hoping to see some growth from a new railroad station.

Harry Carey Sr. plays Bill Barker, a tall-tale-spinning westerner with big dreams but little capital. In the opening scene, set in New York in 1881, he rides a carriage at high speed down Broadway and tries to con a Wall Street tycoon who's a little too smart for him. Back in Texas, he finds himself elected mayor of Martinez, thanks to his ability to dazzle a crowd with extemporaneous big talk. He takes a local outlaw under his wing, the Tonto Kid (Tim Holt), and tries to get him to straighten out, especially after the boy takes a liking to a newly arrived young lady who happens to be Barker's daughter, a relationship she has no knowledge of, having been raised to think her father died a hero at Gettysburg. Which is exactly how Barker wants it.

There are Indians, whose movements are manipulated to benefit different factions, and corrupt ranchers seeking to deprive rivals of available water resources. There are dance hall girls whose function is never spelled out but is quite evident nonetheless. Everything happens at its own pace and if you come into this expecting—or demanding—the usual western formula you will allow the film's considerable virtues to fly right over your head.

In the few writings I've seen on this film, much is made of the central characters' resemblance to certain western historical figures, e.g. Judge Roy Bean, Billy the Kid and the Clanton Gang. As someone who's read quite a bit of western history, I find the characters presented here unique enough to stand on their own as memorable fictional figures and the tale, as spun here, more in keeping with folklore than with history.
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