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points of view on art
Quinoa19847 February 2010
Wim Wenders was curious at the 1982 Cannes Film Festival about the future of cinema. At the time it was at the end, or just a change, in a time in film-making when it seemed like anything was possible. The 1970's saw New-Waves in America and Germany, plus some original talent from France (Akerman), Italy (Bertolucci and Wertmuller), and elsewhere, but by 1982 things seemed a little bleak, apparently. Commercialism was rising high, and Steven Spielberg's friend George Lucas was unintentionally leading the charge to a more Blockbuster-oriented cinema worldwide, relegating art to the 'art-houses'. So, Wenders brought in a bunch of filmmakers to talk, right to the camera, on their thoughts about the future in film, if there was one, what about TV, etc.

We get two extremes of thought and response, actually, between two icons of cinema for different reasons: Jean-Luc Godard and Steven Spielberg. While Godard keeps looking at the letter, giving one an odd impression (he's the first interview) that he's just reading from the text and going on in messages that, yeah, film is screwed but it still is different from TV, Spielberg is more optimistic but cautious in making sure to take into account the finance of film, the figures. In-between these two figures, one an obtuse intellectual and the other a classic showman, we get a variety of thoughts and takes, some more pessimistic then others. One of the best interviews comes from Werner Herzog, who decides he must take off his shoes and socks before the interview because of the depth of the question (he also turns off the TV in the room, which no one else does).

Sadly, we also see some of the decline right in the room. One of the titans of cinema from the 'New-Wave' period, Michelangelo Antonioni, thinks cinema can evolve but that it will probably die at some point because of new mediums like video (oh if he only knew). And another, Fassbinder, looks tired and bloated, giving a half-assed if interesting answer (he would die a couple of months later). Some others give a dour impression, like Paul Morrissey, but it's not altogether unhopeful words said. In fact what it amounts to, for Wenders, is a realistic assessment of cinema as it would progress in the 1980's and beyond: artists would have to be careful, or just be put into more constricting circumstances, as the medium expands and it changes the way people see movies.
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6/10
A must-see for film students
Horst_In_Translation26 August 2016
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"Chambre 666" or "Room 666" is a 45-minute documentary movie from 1982, which will have its 35th anniversary next year. The director is Wim Wenders and he made this fairly short film at the Cannes Film Festival. He used the fact that several fairly famous filmmakers were present and managed to get them into a room one-by-one. On a note they read a question, namely what they think about the future of cinema and how things will develop in the next years/decades. Wenders also can be seen briefly near the end when he introduces a Turkish filmmaker who could not be present, but has submitted an audio message. I liked quite a lot how Wenders left the screen after showing us a photo of the man talking. I don't want to say all the filmmakers you see in here, you can check it for yourself in the list here on IMDb, but it's all about what they say and how they say it. Some sit down all the time, some keep moving, everybody has their way of telling us his thoughts. Some talk very briefly (like Fassbinder who died not much later), some talk a whole lot (like Godard early on). Wenders included filmmakers from all kinds of countries and also women filmmakers. This is certainly an interesting watch to see how people saw the medium of film and how they thought it would progress. I do think sometimes it is too specific though for general audiences, but aspiring filmmakers or people who study in the art of filmmaking should really check it out. I enjoyed the watch for sure. Very simple premise, very effective outcome. Make sure you get subtitles as all the filmmakers speak in their respective language.
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The Devil In The Room
tieman647 April 2011
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During the 1982 Cannes Film Festival, director Wim Wenders invited several attending filmmakers to participate in a small experiment. He prepared a sparse hotel room, placed an unmanned camera and tape recorder in opposing corners, and urged each filmmaker to respond to a prepared list of questions whilst alone and unattended.

Cunningly, Wenders positions a camera, television and a chair such that each interviewed film-maker is forced to turn his back to a television set. As the film unfolds, questions of new media's effects on cinema are discussed, as well as cinema's ability to generate affect in the wake of various technological advancements. The television behind the film-makers thus becomes both a threat and a challenge; a generation of artists faced with the menace of new media looming over their shoulders, as well as goaded into turning around and directly facing a new enemy at worst, paradigm at best.

"Room 666" captures the moment when a certain brand of cinema died, that moment after the 70s when Hollywood's power structures were rebuilt, blockbusters and the all-important opening weekend became king, less projects were green lit, creativity was strangled, special effects became the raison d'etre of most films, blanket global releases, infantilism and set-piece cinema became the norm, and narratives increasingly took the form of amusement park rides.

Moreover, the film captures that moment when artists like Antonioni, Godard, Bergman, Altman, Fassbinder and company were pushed aside. In an instant they became the old guard, unwanted in this new world, each now finding it hard to get distribution, let alone funding. Fittingly, Fassbinder looks a mess, tired and dejected. He'd commit suicide soon after.

The film features a number of film-makers, some more interesting than others. Godard, unsurprisingly, gives the longest rant. He's dismissive of television, but accepts that it and new technologies will increasingly stifle cinema, just as cinema killed theatre and the novel. Small films will disappear, he predicts, before likening globalisation and the disappearance of small nations to the homogenization of cinema. For Godard, Hollywood commodifies everything, reappropriates all culture.

Bizarrely Godard then starts asking why people have kids, before making some valid points about postmodernism: "more and more movies talk only about movies, rather than a reality outside the cinema," he says, before pointing out how this self-reference (what he calls text) serves, ironically, only to distract audiences from the similarities between each rehash. And these stories are always comforting, he says, reassuring fantasies, repeatedly redressed and resold.

Werner Herzog appears too. Hilariously, he dismissively turns off the television behind him, and then takes off his socks and shoes ("These are not questions that can be answered with shoes on"). Fellow German Rainer Fassbinder pops up as well, both Germans talking about the rise of spectacle cinema. Herzog makes an interesting point about TV being mobile while cinema is fixed, authoritative. Today the opposite is somewhat true, TV going through a golden age while cinema suffers a massive identity crisis, unable to keep up with the possibilities of television, the internet and video games, the former now a writer's medium, offering extended, overarching narratives, the latter providing a interactive buzz which cinema can't compete with. Indeed, what's most ironic about "Room 666" is that most of these film-makers attribute the degeneration of cinema to the rise of empty spectacle (George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and company), whilst today cinema suffers a death of spectacle, and all content of substance has moved to TV and the net. With all these changes you then get a certain accelerated perishability. It is not only that the subject/object dichotomy between audience and art is now destroyed, but that the very authority and permanence of art as an object is diluted, material created, consumed and discarded in an instant (which gives rise to various forms of elitism).

Noel Simsolo and Monte Hellman pop up next, both moaning about a rise in stupid movies. Hellman says he is addicted to taping movies and not watching them, an addiction which many suffer in our internet age, downloading so much digital pleasure that consuming it all becomes a chore. The super ego's demand that you "enjoy" has become a curse.

Filipino director Mike de Leon shows up, but then quickly leaves. Susan Seidelman spouts some half baked wisdom about movies being driven by passion, but Mahroun Bagdadi wisely undermines her. It is the love for movies that has disconnected filmmakers from real life experiences, he points out, the "brat pack" generation putting not real life on screen, but a version they've learnt from the movies of others. Van Gogh made a similar point about paintings centuries ago.

Pretentiously, Ana Carolina states that no true artist would be interested in working with the electronic image anyway. Turkish director Yilmaz Güney, who at the time was facing extradition, agrees that independence and the artist's vision is steadily being crushed by the logic of capitalism. In Turkey, he says, progressive cinema "is constantly being suppressed, banned, punished, silenced, by some dominant forces."

Michaelangelo Antonioni turns out to be the most prophetic, foreseeing a time when films are watched in the home on large screens from a high definition source. He then talks about the possible effects of video, none of which came to pass, of course, but are nevertheless applicable to our internet generation.

And then there's Spielberg, the reason the film is titled "Room 666". Spielberg's the devil in the room, the guy possessing a slick cockiness which most of the other film-makers lack. Wenders would get increasingly critical of Spielberg as his career progressed, but here he keeps his distance, letting Spielberg condemn himself with his naivety and congenital disavowal. Always in denial, Spielberg calls himself an optimist. As he speaks, politicians rattle over his shoulder.

8.9/10 – Worth one viewing. Similar fare: Cronenberg's "Camera" and "The Last Cinema in the World".
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9/10
Wenders makes relevant questions about the future of movies
Rodrigo_Amaro15 August 2012
The movies are dying? This art form will cease to exist someday? What's the future of movies? And what do movie makers think about all this? See some of the answers in "Chambre 666" documentary directed by Wim Wenders in 1982, inviting film directors from all over the world to answer these questions, give their own opinion on the matter while attending the Cannes Film Festival of that year.

A hotel room, a tape recorder, a paper with the questions and a camera rolling is all that there is. The directors come in and try to explain themselves in the best possible way according to their beliefs. Between the guests are Jean-Luc Godard, Paul Morrissey, Ana Carolina, Steven Spielberg, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Werner Herzog, Michelangelo Antonioni and Wenders himself appear to explain why the director of "Yol" Yilmaz Güney couldn't attend the call and film his statement but he recorded through audio. They've got ten minutes each to answer the questions but the majority preferred to not speak so much (Godard might be the only one who used all the given time).

Trying to keep your curiosity alive I'll only make short explanations of what some of them had to say. The greatest contributions came from Herzog and Antonioni, they said things about the ways of technology and how they might influence peoples lives. The director of "Aguirre", before quoting about his optimistic view on films, made a whole ritual before giving his reply, taking off his shoes, socks and turning off the television (no one did that!) present there. Seeing this now we can only think that Herzog was wrong with one thing: people will stop to live their lives and succumb to the technologies, online shops and all, avoiding whatever what's out there. He said the opposite would occur.

The other testimonies are either too short or too confusing, or ingenuous, or too simplistic. I don't feel that anyone really answered this thoughtful doubt because this is completely subjective, hard to explain, can't be answered at all.

Godard got moronic while presenting his views; the female directors only emphasize about the passion about making films, if that still exists then the movies shall not die; Fassbinder only changed the mood in the room and in the film and got me real confused. By mood I mean when he entered in the room Wim's edition of the film cuts off to an exterior shot with a tense music along. Strangely enough, this would be one of his last interviews, he would die a few months later taking with him German's New Cinema.

One good interview came from the 2nd director, and his reflection that just like many other art forms that at that time were dying or reduced to occasional resurrection, films are also going through the same way. I agree with that. There aren't many good movies anymore, worst, there aren't movies with a message to be sent, art films that are worthy of our time and money, and the masses are only interested in the blockbusters, movies to be consumed. Hollywood feeds us with that all the bloody time! Then comes Spielberg to open your eyes to that fact but frankly what he has to say is quite naive and hypocrite. "I'm not responsible for that" says the man who broke records with "Jaws" AND was promoting "E.T." in Cannes. Really? He changed the way Hollywood makes its system by giving special release dates, trying to predict what people want to see, money grabbing things filled of special effects. His best insight is when he talks about the studios lack of concern for storytelling, they only want the money they spent getting doubled, and most of the time they idealize the "perfect movie" that will join all kinds of public and make a big profit at the box-office. It's really hard to please everybody!

So, this was in 1982, TV and videotapes were the only dominant trend among people, main cause for people walking off from the theaters. Today, we have mobile phones, internet, DVD, BluRay, TV is garbage (it's strange to see Herzog praising it with such quality here but two years earlier he seemed to hate its commercials, declaring holy war against Bonanza on "Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe"). It's fascinating to look back and see how their opinions weren't so prophetic, very few got it right and movies aren't dead...yet. Almost there.

Judging the movie now. The idea was great, everyone should see it just to have some perspective and make up their own minds abut the intriguing and difficult questions Wenders makes. The concept is somewhat flawed though, uninteresting, tiring partly because most of the filmmakers don't talk about movies with passion, with love and even good will. Someone like Scorsese or Kieslowski here would be amazing, they would give positive and remarkable comments.

"Chambre 666" desperately needs a sequel. Wenders must call back all the directors who are still alive, show their interviews back in the 1980's and present what has changed, what they've got it right or wrong, give us new light on things and maybe predict another future for the movies. Keep this idea alive, Wim! 9/10
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10/10
Insightful celebration of the arts
martinpersson974 February 2024
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This film, along with all of Wim Wender's vast and ever impressive body of art and filmography, of course, is a must-see for any lover of film. A perfect homage and analyzis of the medium and its capabilities through the eyes of the elite.

It is very nicely cut and edited, befitting of such a master as Wenders, and is indeed very nicely put together. Lots of interesting observations and insights from some of the all time best filmmakers, who have pioneered the medium in their own way.

Overall, definitely an incredible documentary, perhaps even the crown jewel of Wim Wender's career, incorportaing aspects from all of his peers.

Definitely very much recommended for any lover of film!
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Good Doc
Michael_Elliott27 February 2008
Chambre 666 (1982)

*** (out of 4)

Wim Winders directed this somewhat interesting documentary filmed during the 1982 Cannes Fil Festival. Winders set up a camera in a hotel room and he'd ask various directors to come in and say what they thought about the future of cinema. Werner Herzog, Steven Spielberg, Michelangelo Antonioni, Jean-Luc Godard, Paul Morrissey and various others take part and offer their thoughts on the subject. The opinions very from Herzog not fearing the future to Spielberg showing high concern over the budgets of big movies, which are forcing studios to cut back on smaller films. It's funny because he speaks of being worried about the $10 million it took to film E.T., which he says could cost $18 million in a few years. It's also interesting to hear Herzog "predict" that one day you might be able to order movies through a computer or television. There's nothing technically good about this 45-minute film but it's interesting none the less.
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Incisive experimental docu from Wim Wenders
lor_12 February 2023
My review was written in July 1984 after watching the film at a Manhattan screening room.

Filmed at the Cannes Film Festival in 192, and shown in a shorter version on French tv that year, Wim Wenders' "Room 666" is an informative and often funny cinematic stunt. Pic is scheduled for release later this year in tandem with a longer docu by Wenders about Japanese director Yasujiro Ozu, tentatively titled "Tokyo".

Wenders' concept, simple yet novel, was to present a written list of questions on the future of cinema and its relationship to tv technology to a large number of film directors attending the Cannes Fest, admit them one by one to a hotel room, containing a tape recorder and a pre-set 16mm camera holding one reel of film. With identical compositional framing, each participant is seated in a chair by a window, with a tv set playing next to him, its sound turned off, and permitted complete freedom (other than the time constraint imposed by the single film reel) to present a monolog on camera.

Wenders edited the results, comically choking off the dullards with a sudden blackout (minimalist filmmaking's equivalent to vaudeville tradition's "Get the hook!") and adding a brief, poetic framing story to put everything into context: a shot of an aged cedar standing by the highway, a tree old enough to have seen the entire history of photography, and cinema as well.

Stars of this format emerge as Jean-Luc Godard and Steven Spielberg, each one arguably the key director of, respectively, the '60s and the current decade. Godard addresses with both provocative insight and consierable background the issue of technological change, noting how tv esthetics are replacing cinematic standards. Stating that advertising-supported tv has adopted the representational and editing methods of Sergei Eisentstein's classic "Potemkin", he notes that one-minute "Potemkin"-style commercials work at that length because if they were longer they would face the problem of having to tell the truth about the product involved.

Addressing the tendency toward super-production films and tv miniseries, he notes that in the U. S. the trend to make just one important film, in which the title is the key, not the content. The idea, per Godard, is to shoot less film but release more of it (e.g.ll, lthe miniserires version) than in the past.

Spielberg begins his discourse with some self-serving analysis of how the inflation of film budgets has affected him since the "Jaws" days, but segues into several pointed and valuable observations concerning the trends for studio heads to approve only pictures made "to please everybody", leaving no room for personal films. His segment is definitely an interesting one and takes "Room 666" out of the esoteric territory earmarked by most of the other helmers, each speaking for the most part in his or her native tongue (with English subtitles).

Werner Herzog is the only subject to direct himself actively, turning off the nearby tv set, taking off his shoes and socks, and even dramatically ending his spot by placing a couch pillow over the camera lens. He has no fear of tv, which he compaes to a jukebox: "tv never absorbs you like a movie; you can't turn off the cinema" is the subtilted translation. The late Rainer Werner Fassbinder, looking and sounding weary, defends personal and national-identity cinema against the current trend towards sensationalism in films.

Other speakers often resemble their film output, with Michelangelo Antonioni pacing around the room and asking numerous unanswerable questions, repeatedly stressing what he doesn't know; Monte Hellman proving to be as laconic as one of his pictures; and Paul Morrissey, acting glib yet sincere in his favoring of tv ovr filmmaking since the "intrusion of the director does not exist on tv" and because tv stresses people and characters.

Unfortunately, the third-world directors on view seem hung up with their own parochial issues and do not address Wenders' philosophical questions. The two women included, New York's Susan Seidelman and Brazil's Ana Carolina, seem a bit flustered and inarticulate, adding little to the discourse.

Minimalist in desing Wenders' experimenal concept works and whets one's appetite for similar projects with other subjects. Failing to obtain the righs to use Bernard Herrmann's soundtrack music from "North by Northwest" in the background (reportedly they would have costg more than the filming did), he opted for out-tracks by Jurgen Knieper, leftover from his scoes of other Wenders features. They add a note of melancholy to link "Room 666" with the director's more familiar fictional odysseys.
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