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5/10
Better Than the Average Sci-Fi Offering
befred819 October 2008
Right now eight people have rated this movie at 8.8. Believe me, it's nowhere near that good. I'm suspecting that, the others having seen a lot of dreck on the Sci-Fi Channel, are actually floored by mere competence.

What F&I has going for it is a coherent plot, good sets, decent photography and likable characters. What's going against it is a formula script and adequate-to-poor special effects. The dragons do their job, if not always imaginatively but the really laughable creatures are some orc-type walking bushes called the Forest People. Fortunately their two appears are brief.

Also too brief is John Rhys-Davies performance as the hero's mentor, predictably the best in the film. The reluctant hero (Tom Wisdom) and plucky heroine (Amy Acker) are adequate and easy to watch. The rest of the performances are by-the-numbers, though none outstandingly bad.

The best way to enjoy this movie would be to skip to the last half-hour, specifically to the final hero-versus-dragon battle. When that's over, you can turn it off.
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5/10
It could have been average, but it has ridiculous production values
siderite6 January 2009
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Imagine a standard story about the evil terror of the land, the good king, the bad king, the corrupted king adviser, the good princess and the valiant knight. Any number of scripts and movies could have provided inspiration for this. But no, they wanted to do it the MediaPro way. That is, BTW, a Romanian production company.

The result is some nicely drawn dragons, although completely disconnected. If they weren't "the terror", I would have guessed they came from another movie altogether. Then the script is completely boring and there are some absolutely horrible action scenes and acting.

Arnold Vosloo plays well, I think he is one of the good actors around, too bad he is not cast in decent roles. Why did he accept this role? Did he need money so badly? Or are people in casting just oblivious to acting talent and he plays what he can get?

Same goes for John Rhys-Davies. He plays his usual "Professor" type and has the decency to die when the part got just too ridiculous. His acting wasn't good either, although I have to admit, any actor would have been hard pressed to feel motivated in a movie such as this.

The Romanian actors were decent enough, except Cabral Ibacka and Loredana Groza, who are Romanian TV celebs, not actors, and it painfully shows. I liked the evil king, too, not because the part was interesting or the acting great, but because I remember the actor living in my neighbourhood :)

Bottom line: avoid this. But do look for the extended 5 minute or more trailer. It looks great and has more production and direction values than 10 Fire&Ice movies. Maybe they will extend it to a complete feature film some day :)
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3/10
Painfully bad
Jason_the_psycho1 January 2010
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The movie is so bad that I didn't even bother to finish it.

The story is simple. We have this kingdom called Carpia or something. People living there used to be happy and all that stuff until a fire dragon strikes simply because it felt like destroying things. After all, that's what dragons do. The burn stuff and kill stuff. So the tomboy princess of the kingdom decides to be a hero and tries to reach an ex-knight who is known for being someone who knows ways to defeat a dragon. Unknown to her though, this ex-knight happens to be dead. However, he has a son so everything's OK. So the tomboy princess reaches this guy and asks him to get rid of the dragon, which he kindly refuses at first. He eventually agrees when she offered to pay him. I guess it's probably because: "Cash rules everything around me, C.R.E.A.M., get the money, dollar dollar bill ya'll" - Wu Tang Clan Meanwhile, the king is being persuaded to give in to the terms offered by the evil ruler of another kingdom in order to keep the dragon away.

Seriously, if any of you who actually plan to watch this expect this to be as good as any fantasy-related blockbuster movie, then there's a problem with you. But this movie is flat out bad. Yes, even by TV movie standards. TV movies are known for having cheesy and amateur script writing as well as B- acting, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are always bad. On occasion, they are fun to watch. XIII is a great example.

This movie however, has a really terrible script. While most things in the plot do add up, the characters are incredibly weak (A dragon slayer who cares only about money but later becomes a hero? I'm damned). No matter what they do, you just can't help but think that's just stupid (Charging in while the guards are changing shifts isn't an advantage). And given the fact that this is supposed to be set in the medieval times, there shouldn't be any projectors present at the time.

Of course, given that this movie has a horrendous script, it's difficult to expect any good acting to be seen. It's actually surprising to see Arnold Vosloo in this flick, as you know, he had always been a good actor and was very consistent. Most of the actors/actresses are bad in this one, especially Amy Acker. I have to admit I'm kind of a Amy Acker fan. Still, I have to say that she's horrible in this one. If you can't perform well due to a bad script, at least get the accent right. In this case, her accent is just flat out unbearable. You can clearly hear the American accent in every line she says. Seriously, a Chinese like me can play out an English/Irish accent better than her, and it's not even like I'm good at playing accents. Amy Acker is just annoying the this flick.

Maybe whoever in this film participated for a paid vacation? That's the best explanation I could come up with.

The soundtrack and the CGI stands out in a positive way, not because they're extremely good, but because the other aspects didn't quite work out. That's why it's surprising to see watchable CGI and a somewhat original soundtrack which was actually close to bringing up the tone in the movie.

To be honest, had this movie live up to its potential, it wouldn't score more than 6 or 7 out of 10. The whole movie was a bad idea to begin with anyway. This is also why I'm surprised to see a theatrical release in Romania, as this disaster wouldn't even qualify for a straight-to-DVD release.

TV movies doesn't necessarily mean bad movies. While they are actually stereotyped as cheesy, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. I enjoy cheesy movies and lines. I enjoy corny love-hate relationships and all that. You don't need a huge budget to make something great, you just need the heart and determination. You can clearly see that all of those who were somehow related to the production of this movie don't have the heart to make a good movie.

And one more thing, Sci Fi should stick to science fiction.
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4/10
Potential exceeds execution by a wide margin
neil-47611 January 2010
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This was a cheapie DVD from the supermarket checkout bin. It stars Amy Acker (Fred from Angel), Arnold Vosloo (Imhotep from the Mummy movies), John Rhys-Davies (from any fantasy movie which will stand still long enough for him to get into costume and nip in front of the camera), a chap called Tim Wisdom who I've never heard of before and never expect to hear of again given his achievements in this movie, and a couple of dozen people whose names end in -escu (which also applies to most of the crew).

Intrepid princess Amy Acker gets stuck into finding a way of defending the kingdom from a fire-breathing dragon. Which involves setting an ice-breathing dragon onto it. Which, as it turns out, isn't actually that great an idea.

Thing is, there's actually some potential here. Acker is OK, Vosloo is always fun, Rhys-Davies does his usual thing (Brian Blessed-lite), and the assorted -escus manage to be in the right place at the right time. More importantly, it looks good. The cinematographer plainly knows what he's up to, and the film is very attractively photographed. And despite a less than generous budget, the CGI dragons (clearly based on stingrays) are, for the most part, well animated and well integrated into the background plates, far more so than is usually the case for this sort of movie.

But everything is massively let down by the script. Every plot development is either signalled well in advance or else is hugely predictable. There are constant exhortations to the princess to stay where she is, remain out of danger etc., and she takes no notice of any of them. By about the 10th time she has ignored all advice and rushed into peril, they even make a story point out of it.

The -escus all swordfight by rushing at their opponent brandishing their swords over their head - clearly they all had the same swordfighting teacher, and he was crap.

And regrettably the showdown scrap between the dragons is also crap - well animated, but nothing actually happens. And it doesn't happen A LOT. In fact you wonder whether it's ever going to stop not happening. And then factor in endless riding across the same hill, field, and bit of forest....

In the end, though it's the script which lets it down.
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5/10
Okay Production Value, Mediocre Story, All Equaling One Snooze-fest...
fearfulofspiders26 October 2008
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I was actually quite excited to see Fire & Ice, simply because the Sci-Fi Channel rarely makes fantasy-productions, as they tend to produce more horror and natural disaster trash than anything else.

The acting is okay in this, John Rhys-Davies and Arnold Vosloo were the strongest, and the rest of the cast were ho-hum. The special effects are predictably terrible, however, that only applies to the stingray-like dragons because the landscapes are quite enjoyable to look at. The dragons do not look good, and it was quite a letdown to be honest.

The other flaw would have to be the cinematography and editing. I don't think there's one shot that doesn't try to be "artsy" and "flashy", as the majority of shots are all done in a sweeping-pan. Another flaw would be the mediocre story. The problem of the fire dragon is so quickly solved, that defeating it is the remaining two acts.

The music is bland, and hardly worth listening to a second time. The action is dull, and poorly shot and edited.

All in all, Fire & Ice has an overall okay production value, making it seem like an expensive project, but with a mediocre story, all it really adds up to is a snooze-fest. It's a good thing i recorded this, because I fell asleep the first viewing and unfortunately had to re-watch it to know how it ended... which is predictable, go figure.

I highly recommend on skipping this, unless you, like me, are into Sci-Fi's lame productions.
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4/10
Dragon fans, DO NOT watch this!!!
sakeb16 December 2008
Since I can remember that I'm a huge dragon "afficionado" and I love everything that relates to dragons. I've watched countless dragon movies and I loved every one of them (Please, take under consideration that D-War is not, in my eyes, considered even a take on movie... it was awful).

Unfortunately Fire and Ice does not fall very behind the D-War scene... Dragons look almost like giant flying stingray and are covered in their element (fire or ice) giving them a look as "undragonish" as I even dare to imagine if I tries to undermine a dragon's look.

I was aware that this is a Sci-Fi movie, but the channel's movies are quite entertaining. This has the HUGEST plot holes and STUPIDITIES I've ever seen. Really a NEVER watch. Also, note that this is my first review ever in IMDb and this is really to warn anyone that considers to watch this, mostly if you are a dragon fan. May your fangs never dry!
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2/10
Bad directing, bad CGI, Bad almost everything
ryhill201229 January 2016
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This movie has way too many shots of the same thing that makes the action sequences feel like a turtle running a 5k marathon. So many scenes should have been cut out entirely. Imagine watching the dragons fighting(doing somersaults around each other, then cut back to princess looking on, see dragons flying not really attacking each other, cut back to more looks of worry from princess, back and forth of this pointless dragon fights and worry looks for what seemed like way too long until finally i caved and just had to skip fwd a bit more until it was over. Bad directing is the key to why this movie sucked. The acting was alright i guess, some actors better then others. On the jacket it states "A Visually Spectacular(imo outright lie...unless they meant spectacularly awful), Fantasy Adventure(yeah its that) from the director of Catwoman(uh -oh catwoman sucked too)." That is supposed to be some thing good? (That made me laugh.) I mean the CGI is from 2008, it should be better then stingray like dragons that clearly don't blend into the background and looks real. Jurassic Park had better CGI then this and that was made back in 1993(so visually spectacular???? yeeeeah-right.) Costumes were meh.... I see they tried but it looks like a low budget webisode project and i've seen better webisode shows with much better wardrobe.

My thinking is why did they even bother making this? Yeah, i only stuck around because Amy Acker(Angel) was a main lead.

If your looking for a drinking game maybe watch this with friends and drink every time they say "dragons" or "princess", and you will be drunk real quick.
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5/10
Hot and cold
kosmasp22 March 2021
I think it's a shame seeing someone like Amy Acker in something that surely flies under most peoples radar. A talented actress but if she doesn't get cast in much, of course she has to take upon roles like this. And it probably was fun to shoot (costumes and all), but really does not sum up to much.

Even with some of her better known co stars (like Vosloo, Rhys Davies) this does not elevate (no pun intended) above a certain fun factor some may have while watching it. CGI really is not worth mentioning, but then again this is as low budget as they come. Make of it whatever you want to .. but don't expect it to be something it isn't
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6/10
Very watchable film
muse7-327 November 2009
I disagree with many of the comments on this film. I found it engrossing and the dragons were very impressive indeed. The acting was passable and the whole thing was well put together in all departments. Perhaps it was because I had read such poor reviews that I was expecting it to be worse than it actually was! But on watching it I was very pleasantly surprised! I like John Rhys Davies and enjoyed his contribution to this film. I was not expecting it to be a masterpiece of cinema, but it certainly passed 90 minutes in a pleasant manner! I think everything was just above average and so I have given the film 6 out of 10 just for the fact that it held my attention.
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5/10
Could have been both better and worse...
TheLittleSongbird22 April 2012
I was interested in seeing Fire and Ice, as it did have an intriguing premise, but I was also dubious. Actually, Fire and Ice is a movie that have both been better and worse, not bad but not good. Its good points are the reasonably attractive photography, the well-done and animated dragons, good scenery/sets and charismatic performances from Arnold Vosloo and John Rhys-Davies. On the other hand, Fire and Ice also has its bad points, and they are often dull action sequences where little interesting happens and are clumsily executed in choreography, a stilted, corny script that holds few surprises, a predictable story that for a film of this genre lacks wonder and thrills, characters that generally you don't just engage with because they are either underdeveloped or on the irritating side and the remainder of the acting coming across as rather wooden. Overall, very average for me. 5/10 Bethany Cox
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8/10
Fire and Ice - It could have been a LOT better...
nona_lexxa1518 March 2009
I was looking forward for this movie. It had a quite good promo... The night the movie was aired I took my high hopes and sat in front of the TV. After 10 minutes I realized that it was an average or even below average movie, lot worse than other Sci-Fi or fantasy movies I was accustomed.

The movie had good actors, both Romanians and Americans, but the acting was bad, the graphic was bad and the dragons were UGLY, they looked like some sea animals only things that differed the "dragons" from the sea animals were the ice on their skin and the fact that they breathe fire.

Fire and Ice had a lot of mistakes... To take only one for example: after someone was killed with a sword, the same sword was cleaned, no trace of blood! The villains were stabbed, but they did not bleed!!! Like some freaking aliens!!!

I guess this movie was intended for children under 12 years, or else I cannot explain a lot of things...

What I said until now was " the negative points" but even though the movie had a lot of mistakes I have to rate it 8 because it was a bold decision making this type of movie in a country that doesn't appreciate the Fantasy genre. Also the producers showed that they know how to choose a good plot, but they will have to learn how to make a better movie.

It was indeed a below average movie in an international context, but for Romania it was a step forward. Finally they proved that Media Pro can make more movies, for different genres, not only soap-operas.

I am quite proud that the Romanians took this step and even though they still have a lot to learn, I hope that some day they will make better movies, with less mistakes.

I recommend Fire and Ice to any other Romanian, sick tired with all those gypsy movies, and even to other people who wants to know how this movie looks from the perspective of a country without experience in making this type of movies. Please note: do not be harsh with Media Pro, it is their first movie made from the areas of Sci-Fi/fantasy.
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7/10
Cometh fire, cometh ice...
paul_haakonsen27 May 2013
Compared to the many other movies in the same genre, that have tried and failed most often horribly, then "The Dragon Chronicles: Fire & Ice" actually managed to pull it off quite nicely. As a fan of the fantasy genre for over 25 years, then it is rare that a movie comes along that really manages to impress. "The Dragon Chronicles: Fire & Ice" managed to do so. So thumbs up on that account.

The story in the movie was straight forward and rather generic for this particular genre. The story is about a kingdom that is threatened by an awakened dragon, and it is up to an unlikely hero to overcome his past and step out of his father's shadow to overcome the dragon and bring peace to the troubled kingdom.

Yeah, fairly much a straight out of the textbook plot line there, given, but still, it is so very cliché that it actually worked out and was rather enjoyable and entertaining. The characters in the movie were fairly stereotypical as well, but again, it worked out nicely.

What impressed me the most about this movie was the CGI effects. The dragons were really nicely made and quite impressive, despite the fact that they looked like manta rays in a way. The effects were nice and actually looked rather good. However, their breath weapons could have been a bit more buffed up; as I am sure a creature of such magnitude and size would pack a more potent blast of fire (or cold).

As for the acting, then they had some great actors and actresses to the cast list, and people did good jobs with their given roles. I must admit that especially John Rhys-Davies impressed me here in this movie; his grizzled appearance and distinctive voice was just so right for that role. I will say that Arnold Vosloo also did a great job with the role he was cast for.

If you enjoy a great tale of sword and sorcery (and dragons), then you should definitely check out "The Dragon Chronicles: Fire & Ice", it might just surprise you the way it did me. How this movie managed to score such a low rating is beyond my comprehension, but then again, of course, we are all different people with different likes, dislikes and tastes. I enjoyed this movie tremendously, and can warmly recommend it to fans of the fantasy genre (such as Dungeons & Dragons).
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7/10
Could it have Been Better, Could have Been Worse
elliott782122 September 2011
I'm giving this a 7 which I consider Average, could it have been better, well yes and yet for a Sci-Fi Saturday Night offering it could have been much worse. I've actually watched this a few times now the plot while predictable, is still enjoyable. Production values are better than a list of these movies in the Saturday Night offering from this network. The main actors are adequate and handle the material quite well without being over the top or just phoning in their performance. Some stylish camera work and lush color palette add to the Fantasy of the Film, from Director Pitoff who also helmed Catwoman, and was visual effects director on classics like Alien Resurrection, City of Lost Children. The Dragons CGI work is very good while lacking in some respects I have seen far worse on bigger budget movies, and its worth mentioning this movie had a Three Million dollar budget at the time the largest ever for a Romanian Film Production. So one lazy afternoon or late night you find this on Cable its worth a watch and if its in the bargain bin at your local entertainment store I'd pick it up. Fairly Kid Friendly too and they have far better imaginations and are much more forgiving that we. It's been 4 years since I reviewed this movie and here I sit watching it again, why? Because like wine this film gets better with age, for the fantasy dragons genre definitely better than others that have come out since it's original release.
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8/10
One of the better SyFy movies I've seen
purplequeen5920 February 2010
I watch cheesy SyFy for just that--the cheesiness. But sometimes, the movies surprise me with how good they are, this is one of them. I thought the dragons were well done and although character development was predictable, I thought Amy Acker did a great job. I've missed seeing her since Dollhouse was canceled, so this was great. And who can not enjoy Arnold Vosloo? Ever since I saw him in The Mummy and 24, I have looked for movies with him in it and he was very good in this one. Tom Wisdom was a very believable character and easy on the eyes. John Rhys-Davies was a great addition to this movie and showed me that although he tends to be typecast, he can still make his character very unique and fun to watch.

I found myself not wanting to miss any of this movie. I would recommend it to anyone, and those that are expecting a blockbuster movie like LOTR, take this for what it is, a SyFy movie, entertaining, fun and in this case, an 8 out of 10.

SyFy Saturday's rock!!
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7/10
Not A Bad TV Fantasy Film
Rainey-Dawn14 September 2018
This film seems more geared towards the younger audiences - which is fine with me - it's not a heavy or intricately detailed story... it's easy to follow. I agree with others that the film isn't as good as expected but it's certainly not a bad watch!! I had quite a relaxing time watching the film - joyful!

7/10
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10/10
great movie
curse-of-egypt13 May 2017
I haven't seen this movie in years but I remember the story well and so does my daughter and we both loved it. We both love movies with dragons in it and this one was A1 with us. It had all the action and adventure in it that we both liked and enjoyed it very much. We look forward to buying a copy of this movie off of Amazon.Com soon. Wish they would make more movies with dragons in them
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