Movie itself is pretty decent tho its only one sided (anti American propaganda - torture of the innocents, harassing people who go on a vacation to a war zone :>).
What didn't convince me in this movie is that all this Britons who go to Pakistan for (marriage) end up in Afganistan for 2 and half weeks. Why didn't they go by their plans, and they go to Afghanistan ? First they are in Pakistan and think there wouldn't be a war and they still go to Afganistan, tho when they are on the road in Afganistan they see and hear bombing and flashes around and they still proceed with their vacation ? Are they stupid or they are just foreign fighters going to a holy war. (to protect against infidels and all the rest of mambo jumbo). Wake up it ain't 13century anymore! Crusaders are gone.
I think every sane person would turn back, but they keep moving to tali ban strongholds in Kandahar, Kabul and later fleeing to Konduz.
Thats pretty unconvincing, cause where i live in Balkans, when there was war on and even before war actually started people were leaving their country. Those who couldn't afford it i guess had to stay there either for economic reasons or desire to defend their country. The only foreigners that came in were from Bosnian sides (arab countries mercenaries and from Serbian sides (russian mercenaries), foreign fighters, who fight either for quick buck, looting doing nasty things in name of religion.
As of foreigners going on a trip to a country where bad things like war can happen, i guess they do that on their own risk and its their fault if something happens to them. (i guess i wouldn't blame George bush or Usama bin laden or you who are reading this if i go in war zone and get myself killed or imprisoned). Remember guys where going to get married in Pakistan not Afghanistan.
War is war and maybe they were unlucky and at the wrong time at wrong place, but still they could easily turn back whenever they wanted, they did that after 2 and half weeks, when they saw they cant match i guess with US forces and northern alliance, so they were on the run trying to escape.
Now again dilemma are they foreign fighters or no, I think they were, just there was no proof actually to say so. So like in the movie when they are captured at Mazaar A Sharif ( stick to your story (that we are from Pakistan) and we will be home faster) paid off i guess.
USA torture techniques didn't work i guess, cause they ain't that brutal at all. When i saw so many reports on many televisions lately about how brutal things go on in prisons like Guantanamo, Abu Greib in Iraq, from Amnesty International and when i watched this movie i really laughed my ass out, mostly cause what i saw is nothing. There are many of this violations going on and much worse in the rest parts of the world, but i guess focus on US is more important for left wingers in that organizations.
Worst things are happening in regular prisons all over these countries in (democratic) Europe even and nobody is complaining or reporting about that. Where is Amnesty International ? Where is Human Rights Watch in these cases. Why don't they cover things like they do for Guantanamo or Abu Greib - cause it ain't flashing that good in media i guess, story itself is more important if its against US.
But i guess people will still say that was way too much from US to do. I guess you also think be-headings and doing things to humanitarian workers or workers who help in Iraq is i guess much less problematic than simple mind games US does to get intelligence off potential terrorists.
All that BS about Geneve conventions and stuff like that, this people that were captured are not regular army, so pow things don't apply on these people, potential terrorists got their own laws.
What didn't convince me in this movie is that all this Britons who go to Pakistan for (marriage) end up in Afganistan for 2 and half weeks. Why didn't they go by their plans, and they go to Afghanistan ? First they are in Pakistan and think there wouldn't be a war and they still go to Afganistan, tho when they are on the road in Afganistan they see and hear bombing and flashes around and they still proceed with their vacation ? Are they stupid or they are just foreign fighters going to a holy war. (to protect against infidels and all the rest of mambo jumbo). Wake up it ain't 13century anymore! Crusaders are gone.
I think every sane person would turn back, but they keep moving to tali ban strongholds in Kandahar, Kabul and later fleeing to Konduz.
Thats pretty unconvincing, cause where i live in Balkans, when there was war on and even before war actually started people were leaving their country. Those who couldn't afford it i guess had to stay there either for economic reasons or desire to defend their country. The only foreigners that came in were from Bosnian sides (arab countries mercenaries and from Serbian sides (russian mercenaries), foreign fighters, who fight either for quick buck, looting doing nasty things in name of religion.
As of foreigners going on a trip to a country where bad things like war can happen, i guess they do that on their own risk and its their fault if something happens to them. (i guess i wouldn't blame George bush or Usama bin laden or you who are reading this if i go in war zone and get myself killed or imprisoned). Remember guys where going to get married in Pakistan not Afghanistan.
War is war and maybe they were unlucky and at the wrong time at wrong place, but still they could easily turn back whenever they wanted, they did that after 2 and half weeks, when they saw they cant match i guess with US forces and northern alliance, so they were on the run trying to escape.
Now again dilemma are they foreign fighters or no, I think they were, just there was no proof actually to say so. So like in the movie when they are captured at Mazaar A Sharif ( stick to your story (that we are from Pakistan) and we will be home faster) paid off i guess.
USA torture techniques didn't work i guess, cause they ain't that brutal at all. When i saw so many reports on many televisions lately about how brutal things go on in prisons like Guantanamo, Abu Greib in Iraq, from Amnesty International and when i watched this movie i really laughed my ass out, mostly cause what i saw is nothing. There are many of this violations going on and much worse in the rest parts of the world, but i guess focus on US is more important for left wingers in that organizations.
Worst things are happening in regular prisons all over these countries in (democratic) Europe even and nobody is complaining or reporting about that. Where is Amnesty International ? Where is Human Rights Watch in these cases. Why don't they cover things like they do for Guantanamo or Abu Greib - cause it ain't flashing that good in media i guess, story itself is more important if its against US.
But i guess people will still say that was way too much from US to do. I guess you also think be-headings and doing things to humanitarian workers or workers who help in Iraq is i guess much less problematic than simple mind games US does to get intelligence off potential terrorists.
All that BS about Geneve conventions and stuff like that, this people that were captured are not regular army, so pow things don't apply on these people, potential terrorists got their own laws.